Petty or not?
First, the background. Have been working in my current place for about 4 years now. Around 18 months ago, I went to my manager and said "I want more responsibility", basically because it'd look good on my CV. She said "funnily enough, we are thinking of having an assistant mananger's position created, if you show you can do it, you'll be a shoe-in for it". So I basically ran the department for a year or so. I did all the recruitment (we hired 8 people in 2008, I did all the shortlisting, interviews, inductions etc.), I line-managed just about the entire department - doing time-sheets, troubleshooting, timetables, appraisals, made sure everything worked and, if it didn't got it fixed and so on. All the management bollocks. I also got sent on the NHS's Key Skills for Managers course, which I was told I had to have in order to progress beyond where I was. All the while, my manager was giving it "Great job, Scouse, the Assistant Manager's job is yours! As soon as we have funding for it".

My manager then found another job and so said to me "go for my job, you'll defo get it!" Did the whole interview thing then was told "we don't think you're ready for it" and they gave the job to someone I had been line-managing for the previous 12 months. Without sounding too bitchy about it, this was a bit of a surprise since he has no management experience, hasn't got the "necessary" qualifications and is also the most disorganised person I've ever worked with. It came as such a shock to everyone else that my manager's manager had to do an official announcement, because they thought we were taking the piss.

Oh and he also announced that there was no room in the budget for an assistant manager's position within the department.

So, in a nutshell, I'd worked my bollocks off for the best part of 18 months and got fuckall for it.

So here's the bit where I'm wondering if I'm being petty: a little while ago, I had a meeting with my new manager during which he asked me to lead on recruiting two new team members and to do the appraisals for the entire team. In a very roundabout way, he said this was because he didn't have a clue how to do any of this. So I, in a very polite and professional manner, told him to fuck off, since it's not my job to do any of that.

Thing is, I can see two sides of this. He is new to management and could really do with a hand doing these things. However, if he can't do these things, why did he get the job and, more to the point, why should I help him out when I'm going to get fuckall for it?

So, petty or justified?
(ScousersPet, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 12:35, 8 replies)

It would be petty if you hadn't worked your arse off trying to get the position he took from you.
As it stands, I think you should let him make a fool of himself and then swoop in when he gets the sack.
( OneSullenBrit *air sandwiches*, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 12:42, closed)

Or continue to do the job,
have everything documented within your job description and ask for a raise\regrade at your next appraisal. You may wish to get your union involved, I'm sure they'll have something to say about it.
(porkylips looks better as the sun goes down., Mon 22 Jun 2009, 12:47, closed)

Make him pay !!!
How come he got the job? Black mail?
(Biff..., Mon 22 Jun 2009, 12:47, closed)

Decide if you can afford to leave.
If you can afford to leave, don't quit - start complaining long, loud, and hard about this situation. If you get warned or dismissed take it to court. Alweays take it to a tribunal.
Don't do your (new) manager's job without acknowledgement from higher that it is happening. Don't ever work for promises unless an independent party witnesses the arrangement.
Start kicking. Bon chance.
( Larry Vest One day at a time, sweet Jesus, FFS., Mon 22 Jun 2009, 12:49, closed)

I'd complain my arse off to HR then help him
I know it might seem like backstabbing, but u should be able to do it without slagging him off (the idiots are the ones that hired him so its not really his fault).

Thing is it might not help, but its always good to have it written down on a HR record somewhere - and if u keep going back becuase they havent done anything, it all mounts up and they have to do something about it officially
(EvilMeister, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 14:33, closed)

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It would be petty if you weren't a scouser.
( browser still relating boring anecdotes into a void on, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 15:27, closed)

Not really,
End of the day its not really his fault hes in the role, its the idiots that put him there.
Unfortunatly the only way to make them pay is to show them the error of there ways....do your job, only your job.
(MudButton does not mean to offend but......, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 15:56, closed)

Justified
My mother-in-law works in the NHS, and this seems to be the norm: promoting useless fuckwits w-a-y beyond their abilities.

I feel that you owe it to yourself, the NHS, the new promotee and the patients to maximise this person's chances to fail.
( MisterPunch did it that way on, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 17:30, closed)