Being a 'cyclist' myself
Of the non-lycra wearing pavement cruising variety - I'd have probably lumped you one for pushing me off my saddle regardless. That said I can understand why you were annoyed enough to do so, but I wouldn't really say your reaction was justified..
(Apothecaries' weight - I'm a cyborg, but that's OK, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:26, 3 replies)

Hello Clay.

( The Mock Turtle ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:29, closed)

Why does everyone think I'm Clay?
*edit: By everyone I mean you and two other people
(Apothecaries' weight - I'm a cyborg, but that's OK, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:33, closed)

The Shambles move.
Not really cool.
Deleting posts makes you look like a twat btw.

Fyi - if you delete your post you delete all the other posts beneath it in the "tree". Rarely looked on favorably.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:33, closed)

Even if I was moving it
so it made more sense as a direct reply to his thread rather than yours?
(Apothecaries' weight - I'm a cyborg, but that's OK, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:34, closed)

I didn't see that there were any replies beneath it..
(Apothecaries' weight - I'm a cyborg, but that's OK, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:56, closed)

There were. I was typing 1 to the bloke who's neighbour got killed.
Admonished? Good now lets be friends.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:57, closed)

Twice in two days
I'm beginning to make an unintentional reputation for myself. Humble apologies and all that
(Apothecaries' weight - I'm a cyborg, but that's OK, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:59, closed)

"Edit" button is your friend
& if you're going to move a post be sure that there aren't any posts below yours that will be deleted when you delete yours.
Some people try to play games by doing that - this guy is a prime example. It's never ok, as I'm sure you've seen discussions can take on a life of their own and deleting the uppermost post denies all the other participants of the thread.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 17 Apr 2012, 10:10, closed)

Fuck
Point conceded, hat eaten. Didn't realise that his post was gone
(Apothecaries' weight - I'm a cyborg, but that's OK, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 10:18, closed)

Case in point above and below.
Imagine if KipperFillets deleted his original post (OP) now. All theses fun and games. Gone. Forever.
As I said - some wussy types do it quite regularly when they troll/post something stupid. & then get lambasted.
Never a good look.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 17 Apr 2012, 12:35, closed)

There's a delete button?
Hmmmm. Now that WOULD be twattish.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 14:51, closed)

Perfectly justified, as I see it.
He came at me with clear intent to hit me unless I managed to get out of his way. There was enough room for him to pass if he'd kept to one side, but no, he came right at me in the middle of the small gap.

Fortunatley for me, although I look unassuming, as an ex karate instructor the few altercations from cyclists I've had are over quite quickly. I do them them attempt to throw the first punch though.

I may just be lucky that none of them have been on the international circuit themselves, but their anger puts them at an automatic disadvantage.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:38, closed)

Starts to flesh out.
although I look unassuming & as an ex karate instructor
My first lesson in aikido was - speak softly & carry a big stick, learn to talk quicker than you can fight and be a good runner so you can get yourself out of the shit. Quickly.
There is always someone bigger, meaner, faster, nastier etc. than you.
Someday I hope you push this guy off his bike.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:56, closed)

I agree.
Any martial arts takes time and discipline to become good. I've taught and seen many who just wouldn't make it to 1st Dan, let alone to my level.

Anyone who deliberately cycled at someone like this twat did wouldn't be of the right mindset to achieve this.

I know I've been lucky not to find someone bigger and meaner than me, but that luck has come from over 35 years of training and countless competitions home and abroad.

Anyhow, I'd like to think I'd recognise another exponent of the art by their body language. Grand Master Hwang Kee (who presided over all my Dan gradings) never had anyone take the piss out of his name, even in his old age..
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 10:08, closed)

I fear that you may have missed my point.
Nvm.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 17 Apr 2012, 10:54, closed)

I bet he did.
Maybe not in front of him though.

I'm calling bullshit though. I'd be very surprised indeed to see a highly qualifed karate fighter lash out at someone for petty vengeance.

If this happened at all, you're definitely spinning something.

Moo. Plop.
(username failed moderation, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 10:57, closed)

You can think what you like.
The truth is as I said. Sidestep and gentle push from about 10" from me, lack of balance and physics did the rest. No "lashing out" and certainly no Chuck Norris karate moves involved.

Call bullshit you may, there's certainly a lot of untruths on the internet to make you think that. It's a shame I can't easily prove to you that I was actually a karate instructor.

There's no spin to the tale. If I'd wanted I could easily have claimed to have engaged him afterwards and involved a Honda Accord somewhere.

My Malaysian instructor, now 10th Dan, once got picked on in a pub. 10 set upon him and 10 went to hospital. He was ashamed he lost his temper, and wanted to keep it quiet. I can only imagine the derision he'd have gotten if he'd posted the tale on here.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 13:45, closed)

Er, OK.
I know as well as you do how it works.

Despite all the myths about being impervious to provocation, I've yet to meet a serious karate fighter who didn't enjoy a good punchup. What is rare is one that starts a fight.

10th dan, embarrassed about taking on and beating 10 attackers? Come on.
(username failed moderation, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 16:46, closed)

This just shows how little you know
I suppose you've met many more karate people than I have though, so I should bow down to your superior experience.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 16:56, closed)

That's UFC, ain't it?
as in 'utter fucking crap', rather than the fighting thing. Unless they formed a gentlemanly queue, which seems somewhat unlikely, being lagered-up dicks and all...
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 18:47, closed)

I find it rather amusing when people say things like this
I take it you're basing this argument on experience? No? Thought not.
Just because films show ridiculous fight scenes, doesn't mean that in real life people aren't capable of winning these odds.

Saying this isn't possible just shows how little you really know. I'm sure they didn't all pile on him in one go, but myself and 4 others have sparred against him before, and believe me, we didn't stand a chance.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 18 Apr 2012, 7:12, closed)

I'm not saying it's *impossible* as such, just wildly implausible. One would assume - rashly, perhaps - that ten bodies descending upon one body reduces things more or less to a game of 'pile on'. A ten person bumrush has to be hard to beat.

And yes, I am as experienced in karate-fu as anyone else who has seen a Bruce Lee film.
( Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Wed 18 Apr 2012, 23:19, closed)

The story as I heard it
from my dad's friend who was in the pub at the time (and how we found out about it) was that after being called a 'slant eyed git' and taking a slap while he sat with his (then) girlfriend, he got up and walked outside.

Our witness in this case and some others piled out the side door as the soon-to-be hospitalised chap and his friends followed Master Loke out of the main door.

From what I can gather, the first two or three thought they were going to give him a pasting, and their mates held back. The next few must have foolishly gone in to help once the first three were down. I can't imaging the last lot were too keen to try their luck but were possibly too drunk/stupid to hang back.

Karate isn't so much about strength and speed (although it helps a lot) it's more about muscle memory and being able to react with a block or counter-strike without thinking. Most people would have to think about how to throw the first punch, then again for the second. When you've spent literally years practicing combinations and variations of moves it gives you a real advantage.

I can see how you may think it's a tall story, it is the stuff of films, and this is the internet, after all. Having known him since I was 8 all I can say is that I'd never take him on even if I had 9 friends with me.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Thu 19 Apr 2012, 7:31, closed)

Oh dear.
I'd gone to bed - I didn't realise it got worse.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 17 Apr 2012, 21:38, closed)

oh, very much this ^

( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 13:56, closed)

Fair enough
The fact that he jumped a red light and came up onto the pavement into the path of a pedestrian was quite a twatty thing to do - if you warned him and he carried on then perhaps he deserved it
(Apothecaries' weight - I'm a cyborg, but that's OK, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 9:57, closed)

True
I suspect that's why all the other cyclist had a pop at him when he started moaning. One twat gives the rest a bad name.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 10:10, closed)

did he fuck!
why would a cyclist intentionally crash into a pedestrian?
if he had've crashed into you he would have no doubt hurt himself too. i'm calling this bullshit, you just shoved a cyclist into a lamp post because you're twat
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 13:55, closed)

Thank you for the kind, brave words.
I have no idea why cyclists behave as they do.
Why do people take risks? Why do so many cyclists die from undertaking lorries?
I can only assume he was expecting me to jump flat against the wall regardless of if I'd be hit by the pedals or his elbows, or was going faster to 'beat me to the gap'.

Call bullshit all you like. I'm sure it will hurt a lot less than if I'd been hit by the bike. Also, while calling bullshit, please tell me where the "snivelling" part comes across. Oh, and your extra-sensory perception.

EDIT: Good editing skills there on your part. Good idea to tone it down a bit.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 14:04, closed)

well, let me explain why cyclists don't cycle into pedestrians
the reason they don't is because the cyclist would very likely be injured in a crash with a pedestrian.

you claim you had no room to avoid being hit by the cyclist, who was cycling at 'full pelt', but then you go on to say you were able to side step him and shove him into a lamp post.
so by side stepping you would've avoided any contact from the cyclist had you not initiated any.

let me tell you what i think happened.
a weak looking person, maybe a spindly young teenager, or small frail man, was cycling on the pavement.
you took an issue with this and started yelling like a drunken, homeless, lunatic, which was ignored by everybody.
then, using skills picked up, having seen a few jean claude van damme movies and the occasional youtube clip of drunken red necks fighting, waited until he was past you and shoved him into a lamp post.

this is not the first cyclist you've had to punish, but on this rare occasion you didn't allow them to throw the first punch.

you then came onto b3ta to tell us about this twat, that you're really hard, that you instruct people in karate and compete at an international level.

brave words? pffft

is the extra sensory perception that you were referring to, my ability to detect your bullshit?
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 16:12, closed)

Oh dear. I think I'm going to have to draw a diagram for the hard of thinking.
Try r-e-a-d-i-n-g what I wrote. I really does help formulate a response that doesn't make you look like a complete anus.

The gap was only 6' wide, with a building to one side and street furniture to the other. Effectively a short 'tunnel'.

Cyclist jumps lights, onto pavement and cycles towards me.

I shout a warning for him to get off the pavement (are you still reading this ok little boy?).

He pedals faster at me, standing up with the rapid rocking from side to side that this sort of cycling induces, thus taking up a lot more space than he would at a slower speed.

He's on a collision course with me and I have the option to RISK taking an impact, regardless of how much I push myself against the wall, or move over as much as I can and gently deflect his path, so protecting me from very potential injury. I choose the latter as I don't see why I should be put in any danger for his stupid act.

He loses balance as he's going so fast and crashes as he exits this little tunnel. Possibly with a jaunty wobble, I didn't look.

I mention it on this web site.

You make up some ridiculous story and claim what I've said is bullshit. Making yourself look more of a twat than most of the people we've been complaining about this week.


Pretty much sums it up I think. Unless you want me to embellish the story like you do, where you're watching gay porn between posting, feeling like your 1" dick is waaay too small so start trying to put others and their achievements down by conjuring up a pathetic scenario based on absolutely no information whatsoever.

You didn't explain why cyclists don't cycle ito pedestrians. You just assumed that they all think alike. You did however demonstrate quite neatly why you shouldn't be posting on internet forums.

Run along.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Tue 17 Apr 2012, 17:23, closed)

ah, the old 'you're gay and have a small penis' retort
you've defeated me with your unquestionable intellect and wit
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Wed 18 Apr 2012, 9:48, closed)

If you weren't so angry...
...you'd have seen I was pointing out that you'd done something very similar in your post. Obviously you missed that.

I suspect you'll go back and re-edit your posts again, to make yourself look less of a fuckwit.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:59, closed)

not angry at all
i edited my post, probably when you were still replying, as i felt that calling you a snivelling bully was unnecessary.
pointing out that you are a twat based on your behaviour is entirely reasonable though.

you're one of those b3ta fatties aren't you?
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Thu 19 Apr 2012, 1:45, closed)

So you're a chubby chaser and this is grooming?
Sorry, no I'm not a b3ta fattie.

Pointing out that you didn't know and then completely ignored the facts when presented, but still persist judging my behaviour is not quite reasonable. Just twattish.

Admitting you were wrong would mean you'd have to 'man up' though, so I suppose that's never going to happen.

Every other poster on this thread has at least conceded a point here and there and shown they are open to an honest debate. This however seems beyond you, so we'd better just let you calm down and go back to your own little world.

Any final insults to throw?
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Thu 19 Apr 2012, 7:39, closed)

i'm not wrong and if i were, i'd happily accept it
the reason i asked if you were a fatty was because 6 foot is easily wide enough for a cyclist and a pedestrian to pass without incident. unless of course, you're just really, really, fat.

for you to have enough room to side step and then shove him (as you described elsewhere), it seems you had more room than you've been alluding to as well.

but then you maintain the cyclist was cycling right at you, intent on crashing, which is why you shoved him.
i don't understand how you fail to comprehend how illogical and unlikey it would be for a cyclist to purposely crash into a pedestrian.

furthermore, i can't ignore the your earlier post either, where you stated having numerous encounters with cyclists and you've punched them before, only after allowing them to throw punches first (yeah, right!)

also, the point where you said you saw him crash, but in another post you didn't see him. this suggests to me that you're making up details

more likely, you shouted at the cyclist, he ignored you and then you shoved him off his bike because your ego was deflated
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Thu 19 Apr 2012, 10:24, closed)

Oh dear lord.
Please, just once, try reading what I've written.

Cyclist DO ride staight at pedestrians. Fact. Only this morning once jumped the lights and nearly ran over a woman in front of me. He hit her shoulderbag and carried on, but it was a close call. There are dicks out there - you possibly one of them.

As for not seeing the crash, again I actually wrote that I didn't watch him crash, I heard it and turned round just in time to see him landing and then get up. I was more concerned about nearly being run over to actually watch him, and as it was only a gentle push to ensure he didn't go into me, I wasn't really expecting him to come off anyway.

The gap, as I said WOULD have been big enough if only he'd kept to one side, not come straight at me when I was already walking close to the building. Can you comprehend this?

Obviously you're unable to read facts as they are presented, but instead choose to pick and choose points, make up your own, etc., just to try to win an argument.

Sad doesn't even begin to describe how you're coming across.
(Kliper Filllets Getting noticed by twats on the internet since, Thu 19 Apr 2012, 10:35, closed)

as sad as the karate expert that frequently assaults cyclists?
just wondering, was the guy shouting kamikaze as he was attempting to take you both out?
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Thu 19 Apr 2012, 13:08, closed)