no, i urged people not to purchase things purely because there is a promo attached
but if it is something you would buy anyway, then you might as well participate, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain

so, please, you fuck off
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Wed 4 May 2011, 10:54, 1 reply)

I can see right through you.
Still, a man's got to eat, I suppose. Not my problem if you manage to take a few people for a ride.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 4 May 2011, 11:06, closed)

well im glad you can see through me because i am being completely transparent in my comments
i haven't tried to promote any of the brands i work with. I don't work with McDonalds - if i did i wouldn't have been allowed to take part and claim a prize.

i'm not the one here named after brand of fried maize snack shit, so unless you live in a cave licking mould off the walls - you're already part of 'the ride'. i guarantee you have clothing or goods with brand labels on them that you are happy to be associated with. So enjoy the ride and keep please your hands inside the carriage.
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Wed 4 May 2011, 11:12, closed)

now if you will excuse me i have to go and dream up ways to make people buy shit*
*possibly, but not necessarily, shit they need, want or already regularly purchase. Terms & Conditions always apply but I can't see how I could ever affect your statutory rights.
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Wed 4 May 2011, 11:18, closed)

Coming from someone who works in marketing,
an encouragement to enter marketing promotions is exactly what it looks like. Protest all you want.

Oh, and I hate to break it to you, but "monster munch" isn't my real name.

_{Eat more crisps. Eat more crisps. Eat more crisps. Eat more crisps. Eat more crisps. Eat more crisps. Eat more crisps.}

Edit: I have no problem with marketing, but marketing that tries to pretend it isn't marketing makes me rather cross.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 4 May 2011, 11:26, closed)

So you're suggesting
That spimf writing a story on QOTW, about competitions, in which he admits to working in marketing, amounts to a stealthy attempt at marketing?

Fucking hell...
(SnowyTheWereRabbit the Leporid from Hell, Wed 4 May 2011, 11:38, closed)

jesus Monster, you are fucking slow
i've said it twice now but i will happily say it again, just for you

i am not urging you to buy goods because they have a promo on them. if fact i've urged you not to (not particularly cunning considering that's what pay's my salary)

similarly i have not tried to promote any of the brands i work for

i have merely suggested that if you buy something because you want/need/regularly purchase THEN spot there is a promo attached, you might wish to participate because: you have already paid for it and could also win something for no further outlay. which is in fact 'sticking it' if you will, to cunts like me, because frankly if you buy the crap but don't try to win the stuff WE GET TO KEEP IT.

should you win a cash prize you may wish to spend the money on some sort of basic english comprehension course.
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Wed 4 May 2011, 11:40, closed)

Quite right.
There's absolutely no way that you stand to benefit from more people believing that they have a chance of winning a prize in a promotion.

I'm literally drowining in your altruism.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 4 May 2011, 11:52, closed)

i give up
i've clearly urged you NOT to be suckered into buying stuff because of promos.

i've simply pointed out that if you have already bought the crap you might wish to try and claim the prize because a lot of stuff goes unclaimed.

right i'm off to push more evil on an unsuspecting public.
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Wed 4 May 2011, 12:03, closed)

I'd like to believe that I've given you too much credit.
I really would.

But I can't.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 4 May 2011, 12:11, closed)

Fuck me, monster
Are you being deliberately obtuse? FFS...
(Sir Itchalot has a very self-referential signature, Wed 4 May 2011, 15:01, closed)

Bear with me:
- Marketeer spreads the idea that promotional competitions really are worth entering, as you might win something.
- But not to worry, he's being our friend, and not trying to further his own interests (he even advises that we don't buy any more stuff than usual).
- (Possibly) The more suggestible b3tans get the idea that promotional competitions are worth their time, and so are more drawn to products with promotions.
- Products sell, promotions are seen as worthwhile, marketeer gets more work.

So, either

a) I'm right
b) I'm overly cynical / he's not as good a marketeer as I think
or
c) I'm Derren Brown.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 4 May 2011, 16:34, closed)

or maybe i am actually Satans little helper
Bear with me:
- creative who works in marketing offers anecdote expressing surprise that even though he understands the industry it was still novel to actually win something
- i have no desire to use B3ta to further my own interests as social media is the great red herring of marketing i.e. brand managers get in a lather about it but it actually sells fuck all (see Pepsi)
- if i was trying to get people to enter promotional competitions in order to line my own greasy pockets i would at least try and push the brands i have an interest in their way.


So,
a) you're still wrong
b) you are cynical, but then so am i (which is possibly why my promotions are so stonkingly successfull)
c) you do come across as a bit of a cunt (no offence) but i wouldn't go so far as to suggest you were Derren Brown.
( spimf ™ is whoever you want him to be, Wed 4 May 2011, 17:21, closed)

^ this
Spimf mate, I don't think it's worth arguing with MM, he's obviously decided he's right and disappeared up his own bum...
(Sir Itchalot has a very self-referential signature, Wed 4 May 2011, 18:43, closed)

I still don't believe you,
and will wallow happily in my belief that this is indeed a very subtle attempt at insidious marketing, even if it isn't. Which it is.

At least we can agree on Derren Brown.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 4 May 2011, 19:34, closed)

Honestly I think spimf is just resurrecting the old adage
"you've got to be in it to win it", I think the fact he works in league with Satan ;P is immaterial other than he is able to point out that many prizes go begging because people don't enter the prize-draw out of apathy, ignorance, whatever...
"Which brings me to my point, don't buy something just because it has a promotion on it, but if you do, take part."
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Wed 4 May 2011, 22:24, closed)