OR Use TVP- all of the taste (insofar as mince 'tastes' of anything),
none of the heart-clogging fat. Or expenses. Or cruelty even.
*hides under desk to await broadside from b3tard carnivores*
( Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 21 Jul 2010, 15:05, 2 replies)

Fool!....
....All animal products once semi-cooked are immediately rendered nourishing and tasty! Slices of sentient being, no matter the pedigree of animal, format of delivery, cooking methodology or presentational form, are the highest form of consumable!

Mince rules! By the simple process of mincing you can take nostril and foreskin and bits of hoof and, with just the addition of some tomatoes, create a dish worthy of an entire country! The many and varied outputs of the sausage industry would be as nothing without it's ground animal base! Dishes ranging in provenance from mince and potatoes right up to steak tartar all pay fealty to the big man and his meat smasher!

Honestly, this place is a fucking pit of homo carrot munchers!
(NoveltyCondomHead Clanks Wams., Wed 21 Jul 2010, 17:04, closed)

Ha ha- smashing!
If you don't mind me quoting, I'm sorely tempted to get a t-shirt with "Homo Carrot Muncher"!

(or indeed "Mince rules!")
( Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 21 Jul 2010, 19:04, closed)

You do well to hide...
And does "TVP" stand for "Typical Vegetarian Pulp"?

Honestly, I've got nothing against people who eat vegetables and eschew meat. It's all the textured vegetable protein, veggie sausage, nut cutlet, bacon substitute-eating pretend veggies that annoy me.

If you like meat so much, eat meat and stop being so squeamish, FFS.

And if you're going veggie, eat vegetables (they're lovely) and stop trying to turn them into things that resemble meat in all but flavour.
( shinyshinyscalp less a man, more a way of life, Wed 21 Jul 2010, 17:08, closed)

I really hope this is arch-irony, in which case I salute you.
If not-
The main reasons for eating fake-meat nonsense is that it's cheap, healthy & easy to prepare veggie equivalents of meaty-favourites WITHOUT ANY ANIMALS SUFFERING.
And that's as close to a preachy veggie I ever want to get. Plus b3ta attracts a far more intelligent selection of society (with occasional exceptions) who don't need pointing out the obvious.
( Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Wed 21 Jul 2010, 19:02, closed)

TVP is _not_ cheap!
When I was a student I wanted to eat TVP because it would mean I could cook it badly and still not have the problems associated with badly-cooked meat. However, I soon discovered that TVP cost about 5 times as much as meat.
If/when TVP is actually priced as it ought to be, being a product of a bacterium acting on industrial waste, I'll probably buy it. Until that day I'll stick to the flesh of dead animals.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Wed 21 Jul 2010, 20:13, closed)

If you're really a vegetarian...
...why would you WANT "veggie equivalents of meaty favourites"? There are far more types of vegetable than there are common types of meat, after all. And, generally, they're better for you than any dead animal equivalent.

It strikes me that this particular subtype of vegetarian might either have limited imagination, or still be hankering after meat, or both. If meat is murder, "veggie equivalents of meaty-favourites" are surely the favourites of abstaining murderers, rather than reformed characters?
( shinyshinyscalp less a man, more a way of life, Thu 22 Jul 2010, 10:34, closed)