I don't know how many of you are poncey enough to fenceBut I propose that the spirit of fencing, hit without being hit, is being lost on the current generation of fencers in favour of score as many points as possible. I therefore suggest a system where a point is subtracted each hit you take and you can't go below 0:
i.e.
X X O X O - 3X - 1
O O X O X - 2X - 1
In this system of scoring you would have to be hit a maximum of 1/3 attacks in order to actually progress in points (2 steps forward 1 step back) and so in order to stop people dying the bout lasts a set number of attacks, 15 or so, unless of course you fancy your chances as a marathon runner.
If it looks unfair to you I'll just claim that's 'cos you're still thinking in "hit hit HIT!" mode. The penalising for being hit is less significant at 15 attacks or so.
I'm also going to be modelling more systems, maybe even chuck in some exponential stuff, but that's just too weird to put on b3ta.
Thoughts?
(, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:50, archived)
Like with maffsbut playdoh is fun, too; somewhat edible, as well!
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MAYBE CR3'll BARR'YA.barrier. barrya. OH i give up.
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sleepybinky, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:54,
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DON'T GIVE UP, KEEP 'POSTING'lol like a fence post...I give up too.
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Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:57,
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I've thought about doing fencing since, ooh, last night when I saw a poster for fencing lessons while I was on the busbut I really don't give a fuck about this
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Malaka omdz, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:51,
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Just build a wall, putting up a fence sounds hard by the looks of things.(
Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:52,
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EYE NOSES.It was an easy roffle for the ones with obvious-humour lobes.
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Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:55,
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I like sabre fencing best of all the fencingsIf there were cleaver fencing I'd prefer that.
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Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:54,
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I did mostly have sabre in mindThe foil fencers can just fuck off with their flaily shit and epeeists can keep on smacking rocks against each other.
I want to slow down the sabreurs a little bit, get them scared.
(, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:56, archived)
You shouldGive them proper sabres and take off their armour, see how many points they're willing to concede then.
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Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:58,
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This is the whole pointat the beginning of the game conceding a point is actually of far greater effect than scoring a point; as shown above with despite an orthodox win of 3 vs 2 it becomes a draw that goes through to sudden death.
People seem to forget what they're emulating when they fence.
(, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 11:01, archived)
I've got a martial arts backgroundand have worked with Bowie knives, which are similar in technique to sabres. A good sabreur will still probably chop the fuck out of me, of course, I haven't put the hours in, but he'll do so with all sorts of bad habits.
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Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 11:06,
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I heard that once you get in a knife fightyou're pretty much guaranteed to get cut in some way, so the idea is to minimise the damage done to you, such as even grabbing the blade to get control of the weapon. How much of this rings true?
Then again... bowie knives are quite different to kitchen knives.
(, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 11:10, archived)
No to grabbingyou're likely to get cut, so make sure it's on the backs of your hands and forearms and not the palms/insides, outer leg rather than inner leg and so on. And finish up quickly before you go into shock :)
I met one guy who took an attacker's knife out of the equation by jamming it into his thigh and holding it there while he punched the crap out of him. He's a very scary guy.
Yup, 10" or so is the cut-off between small and large knives - whether you have a realistic prospect of getting past the blade with your bare hands. Most etymologies of fencing indicate the sword is your protection, rather than your weapon - you keep it between you and your attacker.
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Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 11:18,
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The thing iswhat interests me and what I find appealing about fencing is the background, the practicalities people faced in trying to apply a sharp piece of metal to other people in a way that stopped the same being applied to them. The movements and rhythms and dynamics of it. And something like epee fencing is basically a game of "tag".
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Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:57,
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Sabre is for officersFoil is for vicars
Epee is for the French.
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I read that as clever fencing.(
Esme Weatherwax I swear on my tash it's daycent hash, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:57,
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The oppositemore bellowing and chopping.
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Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:58,
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CHOP CHOP CHOPI'd love to be able to use a sword, all fancy like. I MIGHT BUY ONE.
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Esme Weatherwax I swear on my tash it's daycent hash, Fri 19 Jun 2009, 11:00,
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I'd make fencing more interestingby forcing the fencers to fight whilst holding onto swinging chandeliers
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h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Fri 19 Jun 2009, 10:57,
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