Research?
Edit: And you might want to check Off-topic. It's got all the QOTWers, they'll be pleased to offload their personal tragedies.
( Bats, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 11:59, archived)

Not like, medical research, more personal research?
I have a few questions and stuff.
(Northern Lovely, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:02, archived)

As I say, offtopic.
They wax lyrical about how depressed they've been and all that shit. I think most people have had brushes with depression/self-harm/feeling blue. Depends if you mean Depression, or depression.

If you mean Depression, diagnosed, there's lots of forums out there. Given the propensity of b3ta to go off on one and get all melodramatic, I'm not sure it's the best place to ask, personally.
( Bats, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:05, archived)

Well at this time it's undiagnosed
Can you stop depression in others becoming Depression, or is that just wishful thinking?

I know, it's a heavy thread. I'll check offtopic. Thanks for the response, much appreciated.
(Northern Lovely, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:07, archived)

Okay sam, here we go.
Diognosing a 'friend' (is she fit by the way?), is going to make him or her shut off from you. Nobody wants their mate turn into a doctor, they just want the world to fuck off for a little while. Don't do any kind of "But it's not so bad, you've got XYZ good with your life", it dosn't work that way.

The best thing you can do is call them out for a drink or two, or get them to do something they like. Engage them in coversation that they're interested in and let them forget their worries for a few hours. If things get emotionaly hot'n'heavy, the don't say much more than 'yup, yeah', *nod*, sure.". Tell them about a 'mate' who went to the docs to get some pills, and that s/he should give it a go, "worst case, give them to me, they're quite nice.".

But the worst thing you can do is diognoise him/her, nobody wants to hear that shit unless you have certificate on the wall.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:14, archived)

this is where i've been going wrong, i'm always picking holes in people and pointing out the many ways they are shit and need to change

( mongychops, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:16, archived)

you fucking idiot

( Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:17, archived)

Why?

( Bats, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:19, archived)

Gonzo is very good at spouting "advice" on subjects he knows less than fuck-all about

( Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:21, archived)

What helped you out the most? Music Theorpy or Art Theorpy? Did you try that CBT thing, are you in the school of thought that it's a good thing or a bad thing?
But don't worry Gigly, rather than offering advice or contradicting what I've said, let's just call me an idiot and be done with it.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:24, archived)

i found the lithium took the edge off

( mongychops, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:28, archived)

ok, you're a fucking idiot because you're spouting ill-informed opinions on a subject where you have zero personal experience
see also: rape
( Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:32, archived)

Yeah', none at all, not even the slightest.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:36, archived)

has sexface raped you too?

( mongychops, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:39, archived)

oh right
so you're mentally ill too?

what helped you out the most? music therapy or art therapy? did you try that CBT thing etc etc
( Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:42, archived)

Yeah', I just didn't feel the need to broadcast it.
Not sayin' you did really, but I kept most of that part of my life offline.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:57, archived)

I'm sorry to hear you were raped and suicidal
I imagine you're drugged up to the eyeballs now on happy pills though

which padded cell did they give you?
( Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 13:07, archived)

Yeah', that is almost exactly what I said happened to me, well done.
It's not a pissing contest to see how fucked up you are.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 13:24, archived)

haha, brainwrong
haha
( Gilgamesh gazed in wonder as Frampton came alive, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 13:46, archived)

=((((((
Like fishing for, erm, fish, in a barrel.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 13:52, archived)

Thankyou this is brilliant advice, and confirms exactly what I was worried about.
It's not a fit bird, sorry. It's actually my dad.

I'm going to have a gentle chat with him and see if I can get something done. I'm also wondering if there is a bit of a placebo effect in place when getting help (for anything, not just depression), and even a placebo right now would really help (till the meds kick in).

Thanks again - this is really, really appreciated and now I know what 'line' to take I feel a lot less lost. I don't want him to feel I am patronising him or forcing him to admit something he hasn't admitted to himself.
(Northern Lovely, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:18, archived)

Oooh, it's very different if it's your dad, no matter how close to your dad you are, they're not a 'friend'.
Get one of his mates to do the above, he can't talk to you about all sorts of things.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:20, archived)

I think St John's Wort is a kind of hippy natural happiness tablet
my mum takes it
( Malaka omdz, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:22, archived)

Fucks around with all kinds of prescription meds as well.
I was a little surprised at how much effect it has as a herb.
( Bats, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:24, archived)

I would have to check this
He's on loooads of tablets for various things. But if it's OK for him I am going to get some.
(Northern Lovely, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:27, archived)

Nah, babe.
He needs to see his doctor if he's going to start taking that stuff. Everything interacts with everything else when it comes to meds, throwing something else in might fuck it up.
( Bats, Wed 24 Jun 2009, 12:32, archived)