I'm still not keen on them trying to push this ID card bollocks through. I ain't fucking getting one.

( Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:16, archived)

it looks like they're trying to sneak some business contracts through now
so that the next government won't legally be able to pull out of it, which is thoroughly democratic of them.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:17, archived)

It's bollocks.
Fucking wobbly jowled Scottish cunt.
( Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:19, archived)

^OMG RACISM

( Donkey Gums @mattcomedy, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:19, archived)

I don't think it's being done purely to spite another
government. If you had a business, you wouldn't invest in staff and equipment to make & maintain the system if there was a chance the next government would scrap it, would you?
( Druid, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:19, archived)

yeah but it's the government that's trying to tie it up,
of course I don't blame the companies so much for going for the business deal.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:21, archived)

Of course they are, because no business in its right mind would invest otherwise.

( Druid, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:31, archived)

Well, quite.
It's a bit of an awkward state of affairs, though.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:32, archived)

I'm getting one just so I can be different.
They're COOL.
( Druid, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:18, archived)

I'm conflicted on ID cards
On one hand, I don't like the idea of being forced to carry something around with me just so I can prove who I am to people

But on the other hand I see the Scandinavian countries and it makes hopping between nations quite easy. They often don't even have passports.

I don't know.
( Theoban What of it, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:18, archived)

I don't have a problem with carrying a card, but I do have a problem
with how secure my information is, and that I have to pay to carry one.
( Druid, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:23, archived)

I can see some of the benefits,
but the way it's being set up seems to be way over the top, and far too vulnerable.
The fact that the maximum penalty for not informing them of a change of address is £2000 makes me wonder exactly who this is really supposed to benefit.
If it was entirely voluntary, if it wasn't tied to a centralised database containing everything about you, if they didn't demand to know so much frankly irrelevant crap (including keeping a permanent record of every time you ever use the card for anything), I might have been tempted to get one because I could use some sort of ID. But this thing? No way.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:25, archived)

These are excellent points
I should read up on this more. I'm woefully ill-educated on the matter
( Theoban What of it, Tue 7 Jul 2009, 11:27, archived)