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What's wrong with ambition and wanting a career when you're 16 or 17?

(I helped save b3ta! in vino veritas, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:43, archived)
Nobody knows what they want when they're 16 or 17,
this is going to fuck the rest of their lives up.
It's bad enough that bright kids are expected to go to university at 18.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:44, archived)
this
I'll get back to them when I've got any idea what I want to do. /32
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:46, archived)
Adult society's value system is fucked up,
and we're pushing it on to the next generation like heroin.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:48, archived)
No-one pushes heroin
just saying, like.
(I helped save b3ta! wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Wed 26 May 2010, 23:48, archived)
What do they get if they win?

(I helped save b3ta! MooCow_Byter, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:46, archived)
An e-mailer.

(I helped save b3ta! Neptune A dole queue dosser and foul mouthed chav., Wed 26 May 2010, 22:47, archived)
Haha, I really hope that's true.
His secretary having to use one of those was pretty much the best thing about The Apprentice.
(I helped save b3ta! MooCow_Byter, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:55, archived)
I've never watched the apprentice.
Alan Sugar is a tosser.
(I helped save b3ta! Neptune A dole queue dosser and foul mouthed chav., Wed 26 May 2010, 22:56, archived)
I knew exactly what I wanted at 17
free ecstasy.
(I helped save b3ta! wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:46, archived)
well any later and they'd have left home
and to do that, you need a job. At 18 you are most likely still living at home, so can drop it all and go to University.
(I helped save b3ta! spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:46, archived)
It would sort out the ones who really give a toss, and no mistake.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:50, archived)
you'd be left with the ones with rich parents, surely

(I helped save b3ta! spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:52, archived)
...and the ones who give a toss.
Mature students DO exist.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:54, archived)
I just wanted another beer.

(I helped save b3ta! JessAction Give me all your expensive brandy and hubcaps., Wed 26 May 2010, 22:47, archived)
When I did my research project,
the other MChem student was regarded in a much better light, because she had known exactly what career she wanted to do at about 14 and had planned all the necessary work experience etc., and I'd more or less drifted along through life and played it by ear. I believe she's now doing a Ph.D and is well on course to a lucrative career in pharmaceuticals.

Although career advisors, teachers and would-be employers loved her for her sheer single-mindedness, she was incredibly stuffy and snobbish, and made me look like a social butterfly in comparison.
(I helped save b3ta! The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Wed 26 May 2010, 22:54, archived)
When I was 12 I wanted to be a computer programmer.
When I was 16 I realised most computer programming was actually rather dull so I went into science instead.
When I was 25 I realised being a scientist was fucking awful and ran for the hills.
Now I'm 33 and a computer programmer.
It is rather dull.
So it goes.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Wed 26 May 2010, 23:04, archived)
This doesn't mean "nobody knows" when they're 16.
I wanted to be in IT or electronics from the age of 8. I was indeed in that career by 18 and stayed there until I got very unwell a few years ago. Now I run my own IT business instead.

I'd not say everyone has that clear ambition, and very few have your apathy. I say they're likely someway between you and me and have a vague idea.

Don't project your own life onto others and label any encouragment of ambition as a Bad Thing, it's just dumb. We've done this one before: ambition and competition are what drives mankind forward. If we did it your way we'd still be apes in caves.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Wed 26 May 2010, 23:14, archived)
I know it doesn't,
it was just an example of how things can turn out funny.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Wed 26 May 2010, 23:18, archived)