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This is a link post Sherry Denness: suicidal sitting on train tracks

With apols for srsns; let's stop people dying

18 year old Sherry Denness had problems (as well all do, eh?). Tried to kill herself. Got help. Is OK.

"When you have ADHD it feels like everything is going 10 million times faster than normal and you don't understand why people around you are so calm."

*Call the Samaritans* on 116 123 or email [email protected]

*24-hour NHS support line* 0800 0234 650
(, Thu 15 Mar 2018, 23:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post tldr

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 0:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post Why?
I'm not suicidal, so why would I call the Samaritans?
Are you hoping that we'll block up their lines or summat?
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 0:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post to see if you are the lucky 1 they put on hold?

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 20:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post How many 18 year olds post here I wonder

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 1:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post If any 18 year olds are here
it's to check what their great grandfathers have managed to post on the internet lately.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 6:54, , Reply)
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She attempted suicide 9 times in 10 days. She had one job.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 6:47, , Reply)
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While we're at it, this article wholly blames the already struggling NHS. Yet again the BBC doing the propaganda work of the tory bastards. Just delete this thread and we'll say no more about it.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 6:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't get past the headline "The NHS didn't know what to do with me"
As if the NHS were some kind of sentient, but incompetent being.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 7:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Dr Shipman would have known what to do with her.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 22:27, , Reply)
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OUR struggling NHS.

Criticism of it should be outlawed. It's the only way things will improve.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 7:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Critics of the NHS should go away and shut up.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 7:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post Ah, but should they attempt suicide?

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 8:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post what things are you interested in improving?
Mental health services or your personal tax liability
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 9:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Agree totally.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 8:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post You're as mentally ill as this daft bint if you think this is Tory propaganda.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 9:08, , Reply)
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It's a steady drip campaign that's been going on for years, same as their anti-muslim one.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 11:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Delusional. If anything this us a blatant attempt to argue for more NHS funding. How can that be anti NHS? Very little anti Muslim rhetoric is needed with three killing sprees in one summer.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 12:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post If she was serious about topping herself, she wouldn't have needed 9 'attempts'.
She's definitely got the AD bit of ADHD going on. But she's still just an idiotic, melodramatic, angst ridden teenage fuckwit who would probably be doing much better at life if her parents had skelped her a bit more often.
The NHS did fail her in that respect, mind. Seems it's easier to diagnose a brat with ADHD these days than it is to call the parents out on their shitty parenting.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 7:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks for explaining,
I'm sure you're a qualified mental-health expert, right?
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 13:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not at all. But I'd wager that somebody who survives nine suicide attempts is looking for an audience, rather than an escape.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 13:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post On a fucking railway path?
Not much of an audience there.

What you probably mean to say is, she was seeking attention.

Well...whether suicidal people are attention-seeking or not doesn't matter much, because they need some fucking attention.

Otherwise, they tend to end up dead.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 13:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post From my experience, suicidal folk are about as far-removed from attention seeking as it gets.
This girl would likely have ended up dead not because she was suicidal, but because she was an idiot desperately seeking attention. Make of that what you will, but I take exception to mongoloids shouting wolf with 'failed' suicide attempts when there are genuinely suicidal folk out there in real need of help that are likely getting put off asking for said help out of fear of being put in the same boat as fuckwits like this.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 14:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post Racist too, eh?
Get back to your Daily Mail, asshat.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 14:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Racist?
Not exactly
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 14:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah...
...you just linked a page that explains why the term is racist, defamatory, misleading, and unacceptable. Well done.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 14:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Discussion?
I wonder if we can avoid trying to score points in a pointless internet argument, and have a real discussion instead? You're clearly not an idiot, not a child, and you're not new here, so let's try?

Putting aside the racism thing - because perhaps you didn't know that the term is unacceptable to most people these days, or perhaps you don't care; perhaps you're mature enough to admit you've learned it is, and can avoid it in future, and perhaps not. Wikipedia has an article about the term "nigger" too, that doesn't make it acceptable.

What concerns me more is the words you say about this young girl, who neither of us knows, but clearly has mental illness challenges - she hears voices, she was sectioned. You call her an "idiotic, melodramatic, angst ridden teenage fuckwit", as well as a "mongoloid shouting wolf".

I hope you accept that mental illness is an illness, like cancer; there is no blame, the person doesn't wish it upon themself. People suffering depression, anorexia, or whatever are not merely 'seeking attention'.

Why do you think it's OK to abuse her in that way? What if she googles her name (perhaps wondering how the BBC story was received), and reads this thread? Would you say those things to her face? Why do you think it's acceptable here?

I posted the link because I sincerely believe that by highlighting mental illness, and our inadequate systems for dealing with it, is a good thing.

You made one very good point - it's terrible that so many valuable resources are wasted dealing with the issues. I'm sure we've both seen TV shows ("What's your emergency") where their services are severely stretched by dealing with a few individuals who make an inordinate number of calls, and I recently read an article, "Five patients made 8303 emergency calls in a year".

Of course, that's disgraceful. But I believe the real problem is, we simply have no adequate systems for dealing with the underlying problems of mental illness.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 16:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes you are right
Mental illness is not a "cry for help" of course but there is a small percentage of people that fall into that category of mentally ill that do self-harm and/or attempt suicide to get the help they need. I am amazed that someone who has tried nine times has also failed nine times and that tells me that this woman did not want to die but wanted help.

The NHS unfortunately are overwhelmed and managed by people who care more about freeing up beds and balancing the books than care for people who need the help. From the minister through to the management tiers. Then we reach the front line who work under horrendous conditions with bad pay and the conclusion that no-one appreciates them above the junior management level.

What the NHS needs is not money but a complete overhaul but this won't happen because those that would be in the position to do this would lose their own jobs in the process.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 21:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post And yet when I propose isensible measures to help the NHS*, people like you get all uppity about it.
sadtimes
* like involuntary euthanasia for autisms and spaccas and mongs and liberals
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 22:22, , Reply)
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LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 9:31, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yep.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 9:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post I had a friend who received minimal input for two suicide attempts. Sadly, third time was the charm.
I've personally experienced mental health care and seen behind the scenes as an NHS employee... and in many, many cases it's shockingly inadequate.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 10:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post I had a similar experience :-(
A girl od'd, got stomach-pumped, and out of hospital the next day. No surprise that she tried again a few weeks later.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 13:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post As
the regular politics shit isn't enough. Also, you can blame "the people" for this for abandoning the Lib Dems who were pushing for more/better mental health provision. They were ahead of the curve in that respect but..."tUiTiOnFeEs!!!"
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 10:32, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't really want a political debate,
I just wish society could deal with mental health better. It's not just this country; whether you call it a 'crisis' or not, it sure as fuck is pandemic.
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 13:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Oh please, the only reason the Lib Dems wanted more people in hospitals was so they could placate the ghost of Cyril Smith by providing him with new victims to fiddle.

(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 22:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post Also, your headline is FAKE NEWS.
She wasn't sitting on the train tracks. She was sitting on a pathway near a some train tracks. Train tracks that she couldn't get to becaue of a bloody big fence. So she wasn't really in any danger, was she?
(, Fri 16 Mar 2018, 22:25, , Reply)