American Psycho.
You fill in the blanks I can't be arsed.

tl;dr

American Psycho.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 14:36, 51 replies)

Is this from Star Wars?

( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 14:43, closed)

does this mean you haven't got a table at Dorsia?

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 14:50, closed)

I have a pet rat and a microwave
If that's what you mean.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 14:50, closed)

I read a book, once.
It was green.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 16:20, closed)

old skool lols

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 16:24, closed)

Joyce Grenfell, if I'm not very much mistaken
*Edit*

Apparently I am. Google attributes it to Heslop in Porridge.
(moon monkey is busy making memories worth repressing, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 16:54, closed)

This website is full of old codgers.
You'd think we'd have better things to do.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:10, closed)

Does anybody actually like that book?
I mean ... it's really very very shit indeed. I can never quite tell if people are pretending to like it in an Emperor's New Clothes way, or pretending to like it in an ironic so-shit-it's-great way, or whether they actually like it and are just literary nobgozzlers.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 17:14, closed)

it's awesome. you're just thick.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 17:31, closed)

It's poorly written and vacuous
like everything else that pan-faced hack has ever written. The chancing prick has even tried to claim that his inability to compose prose and infantile shock tactics are satirical. He's a nobhead and anybody who is taken in by him is a nobhead. He's the violence equivalent of that bint who wrote Fifty Shades of Grey.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 17:35, closed)

Although I do like that bit where he makes a coherent and interesting observation about society and the human condition.
Haha. Yeah. Only joshing. Let's bite of somebody's cunt and talk about Phil Collins. Lulz.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 17:47, closed)

lol u missed the point lol xxx

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 17:54, closed)

lol emperor's new clothes lol lol
It's shit. It's not "oh you only think it's shit because you don't get it" or "it's obviously too clever for you". He's not fucking Martin Amis or Salman Rushdie. He's a dreary one-trick hack.

But ... I mean ... if there is a point then I'm sure you could explain it.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 18:02, closed)

Just watch the DVD
if for thing else the music was good.
(Free pens 100, 101, 102 is still counting on, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 22:03, closed)

bollocks. it's great.
*hips to be square*

edit: martin amis is a dreary prick.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 1:01, closed)

I've not read it.
What is so good about it?
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Tue 12 Mar 2013, 1:43, closed)

the bit where he oh just read it.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 1:57, closed)

so a book that is amazing has nothing to recommend it?
Not one thing?
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Tue 12 Mar 2013, 2:25, closed)

fuck off.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 7:44, closed)

I've read it ... what's good about it?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 8:22, closed)

is it 'real' or just a delusion of patrick's?
the throwaway culture where a person can be someone entirely different to someone else. views on women, if you like that sort of subtext. it's a social comment wrapped up in a gorefest snuggled in a snapshot.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 8:41, closed)

it also plays with notions of the Body, the City, the Gothic, vampires and irony.
Also marks the turning point in BEE's output from minimalist moralism to hyperreal satire, using fictionality to shuffle the traditional tropes of postwar American literature.

And tits and that.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 8:46, closed)

"satire"
That word used to actually mean something. Now it apparently means "this is shit on purpose lulz".
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:04, closed)

Oh man you're well clever.
*swoons*
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:50, closed)

You forgot to mention the Abject.
That's de rigueur whenever the Gothic is brought up.
( Pig Bodine., Tue 12 Mar 2013, 14:00, closed)

The abject doesn't really feature in American Psycho, and the Gothicness is in the traditional sense of it being about power structures.
It's not 'body gothic', which is where the abject usually comes in to play.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 14:29, closed)

I'd say there's an argument that AP can be read as an intersection of the Gothic, the Abject and Seltzer's Wound Culture.
Mainly because I'm awkward.
( Pig Bodine., Tue 12 Mar 2013, 17:04, closed)

I'd agree with that to a point.
My take on it is Punter's 'Monster and Terrorist', but using constructions of the female body in connecting post-Burroughs concepts of the masculine to a postmodern reading of the vampire image. Vampirism as Burroughs addressed the concept in Naked Lunch.

Mainly because I'm a massive wanker.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 17:53, closed)

This is reaching Stewart Lee levels of meta.
The self-referential irony is amazing, and I understand it, because I'm extremely intelligent.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 17:59, closed)

So it's an incredibly weak re-hashing of Tzu's "reality versus fantasy" idea.
A trope so worn out that it only really surfaces in pulp sci-fi.

And a social commentary? Really? On what, exactly? He's a cardboard caricature of a stereotype of something that never really existed and he nicked out of the film Wall Street.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:03, closed)

look, the point of literature is that you enjoy your own gains.
alt: fuck off
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 11:52, closed)

I don't know what those words in that order mean.
Is it code?
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 12:27, closed)

AND you have to cut out every other page
before you can have a cohesive wank over the sexual violence. It's rubbish.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 18:34, closed)

Plumdozer loves it
that and Catcher in the Rye.

he's such a child.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 11 Mar 2013, 21:31, closed)

yes, American Psycho, renowned for being taught in secondary schools.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 11 Mar 2013, 22:11, closed)

Why not, we have 6 year olds screeching profanity at each other whilst blowing people's heads off in 18-rated Call Of Duty games for fuck's sake

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 12:01, closed)

Good to see you back.
Where's acheballs and soretwat then?
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 12 Mar 2013, 8:55, closed)

I preferred your bacon troll.
Still, I can't resist, so I'll just chip in with my opinion that Salmon Rushdie is shit (having read one of his books).
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:12, closed)

You make an excellent point.
It's not like he's been nominated for the Booker a few times and won it once and been knighted for literature and produced a slew of critically acclaimed literary novels, non-fiction essays and children's books all while being under threat of death or owt.

I can't imagine why anybody would consider him comparable to some smug west coast poshboy who's made a career selling the same pulp fiction book over and over again to people who think they're too clever to read pulp fiction.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 9:23, closed)

All well and good,
but could either of them beat Richard Dawkins in "make the best bacon sandwich" competition?
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 12:39, closed)

I reckon Dawkins has got that one in the bag.
He married a Timelord. Motherfucker can make a sandwich.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 13:25, closed)

So you'll find validation in international acclaim and prizes but sneer at those pointing at their Star Wars pun getting in the top three?
As usual, one rule for critically lauded novelists and another for strangers on an internet message board.

Rushdie loses points for letting Bono near his work though.

Re: American Psycho, it must be shit as I remember thinking it was great as a sixth former.
( Pig Bodine., Tue 12 Mar 2013, 13:55, closed)

wtfayboa?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 15:16, closed)

but he hasn't though.
American Psycho is only similar to Glamorama in terms of his output. He hasn't sold it over and over. Lunar Park was atrocious, but Imperial Bedrooms is very very good.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 18:20, closed)

Fair enough.
Remind me ... is Imperial Bedrooms the crass parody about the wealthy and self-obsessed sadist? Or is that American Psycho? Or Less Than Zero?

It's just I get them a bit confused. What with them all being the same schlocky pulp crap about the same two-dimensional wank-fantasy-autobiographical Brett Easton Ellis character.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 19:09, closed)

I am well impressed with your mad literary skillz
Dr. Shampoo. Your mummy and daddy must be well pleased that you doing such a good job of your BA. Especially being a 1st year Lit. student and all.
(Misery McUglywife an attention seeking sociopathic fuckstain., Tue 12 Mar 2013, 20:57, closed)

The taking the piss out of yuppies is the good bit, the violence is really irrelevant, which is, I think, the point. And on that point (and that point alone) it's not half bad. But let's not confuse pulp lit with lit (Rushdie's Midnight Children is great, Satanic Verses difficult to keep interested in, but either way, it's a different standard of writing altogether - so not, in my opinion, comparable).
(MayorBoris, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:04, closed)

I really liked The Satanic Verses.
I prefer Ballard to Rushdie though.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:20, closed)

I've nothing really against the book or his mad success
it's just irritating when people wank on about it as if it's something more than just airport pulp fiction.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:20, closed)

Subjective commentary lols

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 13 Mar 2013, 8:57, closed)

lol rofl willy bum poo poo

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:19, closed)