It's difficult for middle class, medium to high earners to empathise, I suppose.
If you don't grow up in the kind of situation where you have no money, no prospects, little education and very little idea where to go to work your way into a *better* situation, I imagine it could be very easy to find yourself doing what other people have done, and turning to one vice or another.

And if you actually do have a substance problem, you don't decide to drink yourself into penury. The only drink you decide to have is the first one. Granted, if you know the first one is going to lead to the next thirty or fifty drinks, then that one decision is pretty stupid. But as someone with no personal experience of anyone with substance abuse problems, and being a massive headwrong myself, I find I have a quite high sympathy threshold.

*shrugs*
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:39, 4 replies, latest was 10 years ago)

precisely this

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:40, Reply)

So what you're saying is it's all poor people's own fault?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:41, Reply)

Fault is the term I'd use.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:41, Reply)

Finally people seem to be getting it

( Kroney, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:44, Reply)

I blame McDonald's.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:44, Reply)

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:45, Reply)

Yes. That's precisely what I was saying. Exactly.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:44, Reply)

The most awful person in the world is a middle class English heterosexual man.
They cannot do anything but exploit others for their own selfish greed. Cunts.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:46, Reply)

alright Andy Parsons' less funny younger brother

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:46, Reply)

Hey lover - got a kiss for Daddy?

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:54, Reply)

My patient was very successful, own law firm, family etc.
Family bereavements and his missus being unfaithful, led to depression and a.d. He was prescribed meds, but ended up sleeping on another's couch. Tragic, as I said.
(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:46, Reply)

Probably ended up with a bad back too.

( MEATSNAKE Richard Hammond, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:49, Reply)

Yeah, because people don't die and people don't cheat in other peoples' lives.
I'm not saying it wasn't a bad series of events. I'm saying that this happens all the time and this particular man hid from it with drink and now he's getting kicked out of his flat.

Causes not his fault. He chose to drink. His fault.
( Kroney, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:50, Reply)

Hokey jinkers! Is all this hitting a bit close to home LeBeef?
Daddy ent here no more to wipe your tears with his flaccid cock so go suck a fruit shoot yeah?
(Captain Give-A-Fuck #internetpals4eva, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:54, Reply)

lol

( Kroney, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:57, Reply)

I do wonder sometimes what difference there is that makes some people 'copers'
and others 'gibbering wrecks'. If we could figure that out, we could immunise against it.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 31 Mar 2014, 12:56, Reply)

It often is a case of a chemical inbalance, but there are so many
other societal factors.
(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:00, Reply)

That's because some people are bloobloo pissy pantses

( Kroney, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:04, Reply)

Utter nonsense.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:08, Reply)

^hand wringer

( Kroney, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:10, Reply)

I'd prefer it that my job is to provide support and aid for others.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:11, Reply)

Good, can you send me some money?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:14, Reply)

Yes, how much?

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:17, Reply)

Couple of grand should cover it

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:20, Reply)

this is just a ruse to send him bumoley pics isn't it?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:25, Reply)

I've perfected the camera angle now

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:29, Reply)

it must be like peering into a hairy black hole of death
shudder shudder shudder
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:34, Reply)

Yeah, you're imagining my bumhole now

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:35, Reply)

Your job's like mine, to fix stuff that's broken.
If you pour water (or in your case 6 litres of cider) into a machine, chances are you're going to break it. You can fix it and educate the user, but it doesn't stop the user being a fucking idiot.
( Kroney, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:14, Reply)

I'd be pissing like a racehorse after 6l of cider

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:16, Reply)

6 litres is more than the amount of blood you've got in your system.

( Kroney, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:19, Reply)

12 pints innit

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:20, Reply)

No, it's nearer ten and a half

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:22, Reply)

Fucking pussy

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:23, Reply)

There is an element of idiocy, but we've all been twats, noone is perfect.

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:17, Reply)

Not even Craig or Peter?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:17, Reply)

Perfectly stylish

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:19, Reply)

Asperger's.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:12, Reply)

Hasn't that been dropped as a definition now?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:13, Reply)

Maybe, I still use it as a catch-all excuse for everything wrong that I say and do.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Mon 31 Mar 2014, 13:35, Reply)