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# it makes quite a difference though doesn't it
the subject and first focus is on the Iraquis now, the American appears to be an intuder in the frame of the picture.
(metaphors)
(I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:05, archived)
# Uh..he looks like the intruder in both..
what with the gun and all..
(I helped save b3ta! EvS, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:06, archived)
# Ok put it this way, in the first one the man with the baby seems more to be moving towards the soldier
in the 2nd one the solder appears to be moving more towards the man
(I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:07, archived)
# I think it's the exact opposite.
funny, that.
(I helped save b3ta! zog why change it now?, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:10, archived)
# I also think that whatever I was trying to do
I didn't intend for the soldier to stick out like that, but he really does. it looks like a collage now.
(I helped save b3ta! zog why change it now?, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:11, archived)
# Yeah it's all how people percieve them
You could probably do a nice 2 or 3 year study on peoples perceptions of images when given no context only the images themseleves.
Research funded by advertising agencies maybe.
(I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:14, archived)
# It's true
I wonder which way round the photo(s) were before he doctored them.

I must say, all the propaganda in this war is starting to get to me.
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:10, archived)
# i don't have TV
it helps keep me sane
(I helped save b3ta! kitty meow meow, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:12, archived)
# I hardly watch it meself
but Mrs. GR££DY always had it on, it's like osmosis, only...blunter, more intrusive.
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:14, archived)
# someone's going
to post that poem again, aren't they?
(I helped save b3ta! kitty meow meow, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:16, archived)
# which
poem?

/philistine
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:20, archived)
# I think it's actually lyrics
TV the drug of a nation

or something along those lines...
(I helped save b3ta! kitty meow meow, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:25, archived)
# I know the one.
here
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:29, archived)
# good job
:)
(I helped save b3ta! kitty meow meow, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:36, archived)
# Artamnesia posted the originals
they're in the spazz somewhere.
(Cheril, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:14, archived)
# No,
before the photographer started messing with them :)
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:14, archived)
# Yes,
she posted both originals and, below them, the composite.
(Cheril, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:22, archived)
# No.
I meant before they were published. I mean, who's to say the "originals" are the originals. See? ;)
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:27, archived)
# yes but he was hypothesizing
that perhaps even those originals (supplied by the nicked photographer) weren't the real originals.
(I helped save b3ta! zog why change it now?, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:27, archived)
# Gosh,
but that would be dishonest...
(Cheril, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:29, archived)
# I am the first person to flip the image
all the others are the 'correct' way around.
(I helped save b3ta! Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:14, archived)
# you little
genius.

let me do all the hours of work and then flip it around in 5 seconds and get all the credit!

warhol!
(I helped save b3ta! zog why change it now?, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:17, archived)
# A soldier wouldn't
hold a gun with his left hand.
(I helped save b3ta! EvS, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:17, archived)
# Even if he were
left handed?
[EDIT]You're right, useful thing to know, that[/EDIT]
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:20, archived)
# The weapons are designed to be
right handed, even lefty's use them.
(I helped save b3ta! EvS, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:23, archived)
# And
it would look messy on parade ;)
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:25, archived)
# But keep in mind
that the photo is faked to begin with...
(I helped save b3ta! Artamnesia, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:28, archived)
# I like
this perspective better...
(I helped save b3ta! kitty meow meow, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:07, archived)
# it makes the iraqi's
look more aggressive, and the soldier more panicky and defensive. like he's backing up nervously.

the whole thing looks staged anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! zog why change it now?, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:09, archived)
# it does
at that
(I helped save b3ta! kitty meow meow, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:11, archived)
#
Art rocks. I mean seriously fucking rocks.
It's like philosophy put down where you can see and touch it.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:12, archived)
# well, we westerners read from left to right
and we see movement and time passage that way too.
so the innate movement in every painting enters at the left and leaves at the right.
so you should see the soldier backing up toward the right and the iraqis advancing from the left, or in the original painting, the soldier has arrived from the left on the scene and is telling the man who's moving the wrong direction in the picture to please take up his place in the right of the picture again.
(I helped save b3ta! zog why change it now?, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:16, archived)
# That's what I see
except the gun the soldier is holding is kind of disconcerting.

I feel he's more likely to start shooting at random people in Fnord's version.
(I helped save b3ta! kitty meow meow, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:18, archived)
# argh!
now you say that, I think you're right. There's only one thing for it - don't think.
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:12, archived)
# It was shopped
which is why the photographer lost his job. I think we may have forgotten that little nugget along the way...
(I helped save b3ta! Artamnesia, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:29, archived)
# You keep saying that...
...but I heard it won some sort of wartime photography competition.
(Cheril, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 2:49, archived)
# It is real.
*sigh*
(I helped save b3ta! GR33DY, Thu 3 Apr 2003, 3:06, archived)