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# As of 40 minutes ago our vuvuzelas are safe.
www.skysports.com/football/world-cup-2010/story/0,27032,12098_6206498,00.html
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:17, archived)
# Geeeeeeeeeeeze . . . maybe all of the sponsors will withdraw !
(I helped save b3ta! Valin I changed glasses while I wasn't looking, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:22, archived)
# Broadcasters were complaining that they drown out the "atmosphere-generating singing".
In Africa, people don't sing at football matches; they blow vuvuzelas. Basically their gripe is that "this African world cup is too African and not European enough."

The thing is; they sound nothing like bees. They sound more like...well, horns frankly. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X031mwwuLg They're no worse than rattles and airhorns and dickheads shouting.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:24, archived)
# Wild comments ensue . . .
(I helped save b3ta! Valin I changed glasses while I wasn't looking, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:31, archived)
# All this football is distracting me from watching the vuvuzela matches on television.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:32, archived)
# (=
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(macroscian (1 like), Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:37, archived)
# Ha!

(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:55, archived)
# ^This^
Everyone should stop whining. Imagine if the world cup were in England, and the fans were told they can't sing at the games because people watching in Japan don't like it. That's basically what everyone seems to want to happen.
(I helped save b3ta! The Awful Puppy Bakery is still bored, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:32, archived)
# As far as I can make out,
the only people complaining are the broadcasters like Sky Sports. I figure it's because they have an idea of what a football match should be like, and their viewers have an expectation of what a football match should be like, and they're worried their viewers will be turned off by being offered a football experience that is outside of their usual cultural sphere. Europeans expect singing and chanting; that's what happens at a football match if you're European. Personally I think the broadcasters are being a bit patronising by assuming that their viewers are so small-minded, that's what TV is all about these days - they would rather change the facts to fit the expected story than just report the facts - and sports reporting is no different.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:36, archived)
# Maybe the irritating horns are irritating people?
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:50, archived)
# Maybe some people.
But they're cunts.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:53, archived)
# You're biased, clearly.
The only time I've heard those horns is when it was decided that it's fun to "rickroll" with them. If I had to tolerate that tuneless dirge for longer than 30 seconds I'd be irritated.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:55, archived)
# I'm sure unexpected vuvuzelas are both shocking and upsetting,
but to go to a football match and complain about the noise is a bit much. They may be annoying when taken out of the context of a lively football match, but in their proper setting they are no worse than any other form of terrace vocalisation.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:59, archived)
# I disagree. It's a subjective matter but I'd argue that they're more annoying to those that dislike them than they are fun to those who like them.
I'm bored of drrrrhorns now anyway. GOOD DEBATING A+++
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:01, archived)
# WOULD DEBATE AGAIN
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:09, archived)
# RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:48, archived)
# Vuvuzela
They produce 100db each, a jumbo jet is 130. I just hope all the international fans.. (yes its an INTERNATIONAL tournament) sue this shit out FIFA for permanent hearing damage.
(McDazzle Knows not what he does, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:45, archived)
# Yep.
If you go to a match at Wembley. I'm sure noise levels are well within agreed safety standards.
(I helped save b3ta! The Awful Puppy Bakery is still bored, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:53, archived)
# The world record for shouting is held by Major D.H. "Bob" Burns and measured 113db.
In 2005 a groupd of Finish boy scouts produced a scream measuring over 127db.

The OSHA advice is that noise of 100db-105db is safe to be exposed to for upto a maximum of 2 hours at any one session.

(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:54, archived)
# You know that the decibel scale is logarithmic, yeah?
And 110dB is twice as loud as 100dB, and so on? And a normal conversation is about 60dB?
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:00, archived)
# Im going along with the the audio scientist that I listened to on BBC R4 about an hour ago
Stated that they posed a very real risk of hearing damage.
(McDazzle Knows not what he does, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:03, archived)
# Not from 6000 miles away they don't.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:05, archived)
# I'm in Capetown now,
I wish. But really, its ridiculous!! Its ruining the game for so many people, why every game? Why not just SA games? Don't you want to hear the commentary? Also plastic horns made in china (FIFA organised contract) do not constitute culture. If every fan bought a fog horn or a tuba (imagine - more than one note/sound) to English games it would be a joke!!
(McDazzle Knows not what he does, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:26, archived)
# They all bring a set of lungs and vocal chords which, when combined, can produce about 100db too.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 20:29, archived)
# They might well.
Just saying that the jumbo jet comparison is a misleading one.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:06, archived)
# Imagine ten thousand sexdecillion cats all purring RIGHT IN YOUR EARHOLES.
THAT'S HOW TERRIBLE THIS IS. FORTY MILLION PEOPLE MIGHT DIE.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:08, archived)
# But they'll die comforted by the nice purring.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:09, archived)
# Some people would pay good money for that.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:10, archived)
# Mu would - he's a pervert.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:11, archived)
# Citation needed >:(
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:12, archived)
# YOU'RE NOT WIKIPEDIA. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU?
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:15, archived)
# You're not qualified to make that diagnosis.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:18, archived)
# I'm not playing with you any more!
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:18, archived)
# It's not my fault you failed your internet medicine exams.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:21, archived)
# well there go my nipples again.
(I helped save b3ta! Foxglove -- it all ends in tears anyway..., Mon 14 Jun 2010, 20:53, archived)
# Especially since the OSHA website says that a typical airliner produces 140db
when measured from 100ft away.
(Vlad the Inhaler forgot his password, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:08, archived)
# Comparison was the one given by the audio expert so i went with that..
(McDazzle Knows not what he does, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:31, archived)
# What.....
....like a football game?
(I helped save b3ta! The Awful Puppy Bakery is still bored, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:07, archived)
# Human hearing is non-linear too,
so double the intensity doesn't sound twice as loud. Apparently the decibel scale roughly (probably very roughly) accounts for this.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:11, archived)
# Really? Oh bloody hell - I've learned something due to foopball...
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 14 Jun 2010, 19:36, archived)