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# I'm in hell!!!
Using a Mac right now, argggh! After an hour I've managed to find my way onto the net, and now I'm awash in a sea of horrible gray and white!

And why is that stupid little face smiling at me?!

Stupid mouse movement, stupid keyboard. Made fifteen typos already.
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:17, archived)
# err, you are kidding?
mac's are great and so easy a 5 year old could use them. And you are ... how old?

edit - can't find something? Apple 'f', f is the first letter for "find'
;)
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:20, archived)
# maybe
he's 4
(r0yksopp, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:21, archived)
# i want one
because they're pretty.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:21, archived)
# even cal has an
i-book - he codes whole sites on the way to work.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:22, archived)
# i also know
i can't afford one.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:23, archived)
# although i am appalled at the lack of
mspaint or workalike

actually, i did find one a while back
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:25, archived)
# *rumages*
there's this which is brilliant, and there's mac versions too, i think.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:25, archived)
# i think that the drop down box should have an option
to rotate the text in a post/thread so it's at an angle.

ie. "This is: [going off on a tangent]"
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:27, archived)
# Chevron?
(I helped save b3ta! Quelabra Don't Knock New York, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:30, archived)
# go
for it
(I helped save b3ta! Tedmus, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:33, archived)
# sorry chaps
i ruined it
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:34, archived)
# you
bastard
(I helped save b3ta! Tedmus, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:36, archived)
# We can rebuild it
/$6mChevron
(I helped save b3ta! JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:39, archived)
# I've just eaten
but thanks anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:34, archived)
# oh that looks nice
Shame Meta Creations disapppeared (with all their drop shadows). Kai Kraus's idea was to make very simple packages that just do the things you want, without all the complicated stuff, so everyone would be able to use them. I saw him give a talk once and he was great. Big 'tsache.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:30, archived)
# it's really childish
but it's really great fun.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:32, archived)
# like freddie mercury?
ahhhhh freddie...wish you were here : (
(Tendency, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:34, archived)
# similar -
but longer at the sides. It was large. Kai is a classically trained pianist by the way - you should appreciate that little snippet of information.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:36, archived)
# wow, a proper handlebar eh?
i appreciate your memory of my musicality, btw : )

got lots of performances coming up : ( AS recital, Bursary competition, Grade 8 in June... eep.
(Tendency, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:39, archived)
# yep, a proper one.
wow - good luck with your performances - and grade 8. Takes me back a bit ;) Shit - talking to you makes me panic - actually should oil my clarinet if nothing else.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:46, archived)
# are we
back to euphemisms?

/coat
(I helped save b3ta! zerolicious, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:47, archived)
# well you know...
i have that effect on people ; )

/i wish
(Tendency, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:49, archived)
# i had a feeling tha might happen.
but, on this occasion, no.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:50, archived)
# cheers for the good wishes :)
i'll need em.

i'm off to bed, got lots of deadlines this week. take it easy!
(Tendency, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:54, archived)
# take care
see you soon.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:56, archived)
# Kai's stuff
Could hardly be described as 'easy to use' unless you area complete acid-casualty, a bit like Mr Kraus.
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:35, archived)
# i dunno -
what have you used that has been difficult... I've not used loads of his stuff but its always seemed quite intuitive.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:37, archived)
# all those
photoshop plugins, with the millions of windows, that totally tke over the programme so you lose real time preview, and theres no explanatory text for what you're doing, and loads of unlabelled buttons, and......*breathes*
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:47, archived)
# yeah, i know what you mean.
KPT's. Insane interface. Dropshadows on dropshadows, with embossing round the edge and a bevel on the side and... and... *falls over*
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:51, archived)
# lol
:)
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 22:00, archived)
# i want an ibook very very badly
so i can use logic audio and sequence lots of groovy tunes of a certain dj shadow/amber-era autechre/boards of canada/orb style.
(Tendency, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:37, archived)
# I don't WANT easy!
I'm a friggin' game designer, this is so simplistic it's numbing my MIIIND!

I need complexity! I need endless string of "There was an error type 142 in matrix Z on line MMXMSH:859833, please fornicate now."

I LIKE that stuff, aaaargh!
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:23, archived)
# a designer? on a pc?
pah!
;)
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:28, archived)
# I find my creativity stifled...
It's so...childish!
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:29, archived)
# osx?
I don't like the interface either to be honest - much prefer os9, but i appreciate why x is better, stability wise.

i used to use a pc, it was utterly shite. I'm amazed that the very stupid people in the world seem to be able to manage with something so ugly and unintuitive. (I mean the general population. not you, by the way!)
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:32, archived)
# Well, true...
I'll admit that PCs take a much longer time to learn, but I've been working with them since I was six, and I find that they're much more versatile once you get used to them.

So it's settled:

Intelligent people and REAL MEN use PCs, whiney babies and morons use Macs :)
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:37, archived)
# at 6, i was using a
PET!
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:37, archived)
# well,
these days, if parents are buying their kids a computer, they'll go for a pc cos they can afford it. i know that's why i was brought up on them (amongst others that died out).

my dad was one of the first people in the country who got to play with first generation macs, and he loved them, but he went and became a teacher and so couldn't afford them.

but anyway, you usually end up being most comfortable with what you learn first.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:37, archived)
# fair enough
tis a bit of a shame. Mind you, entry level i-macs ar pretty cheap these days.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:39, archived)
# i quit my job this weekend
and i'm sixteen. i don't have money!
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:41, archived)
# evidence
down there, btw ;)
(I helped save b3ta! zerolicious, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:43, archived)
# Little
3-inch BananaBOY =P
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:43, archived)
# No
It's not about price with me, believe me.

I just like them better, I think PCs sort of "take you in" more. Here I am, sitting at a Mac, and I feel like I'm sitting at a desk...which I am.

A PC makes me feel as if I'm actually IN the computer, especially with games, it's much more immersive.
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:41, archived)
# And another thing...
WHERE'S THE BLOODY CLOCK?!

Edit: Oh there it is.
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:42, archived)
# he hee,
click on it and the date is there aswell, don't panic.
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:46, archived)
# Calm yourself...
All shall be well, innit.
(the_hammerhead_tart -- In love with a strict machine, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:28, archived)
# Ha Ha!
that get's you back for a stupid interface, .DLL files, lack of cross-platform access, affordable product, worldwide acceptance...er hang on.


GRRRR!
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:21, archived)
# never begrudge a fnace for its smiliness
it's quite extrordinary for a computer to be totally at peace with itself, these days
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:26, archived)
# iMacs are evil. EEEVIL.
Well, the old ones are anyway.

Proper Macs are nice though, as are their laptoppy things. Damned expensive though.
(goat thinks you're shit, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:29, archived)
# i-pods
are also luvverly things
(r0yksopp, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:31, archived)
# i love mine,
but it's all full up. (Only 5 gig).
(I helped save b3ta! pep, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:33, archived)
# shut it
i love my classic! it's the only computer i have that i can't procrastinate on =)
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:32, archived)
# *mocking*
Whaaaaat? Huh? I don't get it! It's too complex! Waaah!

Press what? I have TWO buttons on the mouse? That's too complicated for meee....

All in good fun :)
(I helped save b3ta! Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:38, archived)
# yeah
you try writing a dissertation on a computer that's permanently connected to the internet and NOT spend all your time on b3ta

i rest my case
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Mon 7 Apr 2003, 21:58, archived)