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Much as I can only barely stomach tofu

I'd vote for it if it meant an end to pig farming :(

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HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:05, archived)

But surely

an end to pig farming would mean an end to pigs?

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:07, archived)

as a farmed commodity yes

but there's no reason to kill the entire species in spite
Although I imagine a lot of farmers would

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HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:10, archived)

to stop the uprising the farmers would need to go like Saddam Hussain and gas the herds

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Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:12, archived)

Ooooof!

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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:13, archived)

I doubt

there is much natural environment for them now in this country, and the wild ones would soon be killed illegally. Like the wild boar.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:12, archived)

no, absolutely, same with cows

but there's nothing stopping people continuing to keep them as pets!
We created the problem, it's now clearly a major cause of damage to both our environment and health, so it kind of makes sense that we should find a solution

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HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:17, archived)

I have this odd feeling you don't live in a flat.

Edit: because, obviously keeping them as pets in an urban environment is so clearly not practical.
I'd like to point out that I'm going on a pig-rearing course for a few days next month, in order to get a proper handle on when I have some outside space and decide to start keeping my own pigs.
I'm not being flip with you at all, I'm just intrigued by your somewhat didactic approach.

Edit Edit: Realises, all too late that he's got me on ignore anyway. Hey ho.

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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:20, archived)

if it's any consollation I enjoyed this comments reasonableness

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arrangedletters, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:33, archived)

I've never

used the ignore button, even on that bloke who really hated me on here.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:36, archived)

Well, once again, Ms Lunch

You show us all a better way.

*hugs*

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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:41, archived)

*hugs back*

Well, life's too short.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:47, archived)

snap :D

I like being easy going.

EDIT: actually that's a lie... I ignored myself once to see what would happen.

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arrangedletters, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:44, archived)

What did happen?

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:48, archived)

all my posts vanished from the board

and then I had a mild flap about how to undo it. :D

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arrangedletters, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:52, archived)

me? I haven't got anyone on ignore, I was just outside trying to fix a bit of fence

Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as didactic, this seems to happen a lot which is odd as all I think I'm doing is having a pleasant conversation.
Sorry again

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HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 15:52, archived)

Hey Toasty,

No bother whatsoever, I was only wondering as you seemed very clear on your point. ....and then it all went quiet.

*firm handshakes*

Contrary to my normal 'let's all eat revolting foods' cant that I put on the board; Animal welfare is something I truly believe in and actively campaign for, but I guess I couch it more in terms of also providing as humane a means of food supply as possible to those who choose to eat meat.

I'm completely with where you're coming from from, though. My only caveat, I guess, would be that link to the South African academic's piece, which I'm finding a little too 'right on' to be practicable.
All in all, not an easily solved problem.

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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 15:55, archived)

yep, I only said that it was a good read

I'm fascinated about how the brain works. Especially how posting a document that I thought was a good read makes people think I'm making a political or ethical statement :D

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HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 16:14, archived)

I suspect the solution will probably end up being

some new hyper level of intensive farming.

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Smallbrainfield, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:21, archived)

if there's more money to be made then yes, I'm sure it will be

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HappyToast Groat froth, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:22, archived)

You are being cynical today Toasty.

I think demand is the main driver for bacon production, not profit, although naturally that plays a huge part.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:27, archived)

Bacon is good for my health!

Just the smell of it makes me happy.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:21, archived)

Absolutely right!

Similarly, people who are afeared of rats should stop generating so much waste for them to live in

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The Legendary Pink Dot survived yet another, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:22, archived)

There's good eating on a rat

if you clean them and cook them thoroughly. Just watch out for them heavy metals...

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Smallbrainfield, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:34, archived)

You can't milk them either.

If only bacon wasn't so delicious.

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Smallbrainfield, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:19, archived)

if we stop the oppression they will rise up in an orwellian nightmare and seize control of the farm

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Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:10, archived)

All pig farming?

Or the evil Danish Intensive manner of production?

Edit: Actually, there's a clue right there. 'Production' as opposed to 'Farming'.

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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Mon 18 Apr 2011, 14:12, archived)