
Lack of social care, support and education contributes to people developing a disrespect for society, police, etc. My suggestions before were possible factors that cause collective frustration and anger.
I work in social care just now and am constantly trying to encourage the kids I work with to respect the police and the law, but I often see that they don't give a fuck, because they don't have anything to aspire to. The kids that show the most potential to become model citizens are the ones I and others have managed to motivate to get jobs, though actually getting them jobs has been slow and very difficult. Others, where they have no prospects have a kind of learned helplessness and don't feel the need to adhere to any rules, be that a result of peers, upbringing, helplessness, lack of education, whatever. It is a wider societal problem that is at the moment being expressed by these riots. The problems need to be addressed by the government or things will only get worse.
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I work in social care just now and am constantly trying to encourage the kids I work with to respect the police and the law, but I often see that they don't give a fuck, because they don't have anything to aspire to. The kids that show the most potential to become model citizens are the ones I and others have managed to motivate to get jobs, though actually getting them jobs has been slow and very difficult. Others, where they have no prospects have a kind of learned helplessness and don't feel the need to adhere to any rules, be that a result of peers, upbringing, helplessness, lack of education, whatever. It is a wider societal problem that is at the moment being expressed by these riots. The problems need to be addressed by the government or things will only get worse.

as I prefer to discuss weighty matters with people I know in real life.
I agree with some of your arguments but also empathise with Vagabond's point of view, and ultimately, like _Felix I think, I believe that there's a middle ground (please visit me on my fence sometime).
Anyway, all I reall wanted to add is that I think the last line of your post above is correct and verry very important.
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I agree with some of your arguments but also empathise with Vagabond's point of view, and ultimately, like _Felix I think, I believe that there's a middle ground (please visit me on my fence sometime).
Anyway, all I reall wanted to add is that I think the last line of your post above is correct and verry very important.

I'm guessing "employ more people in public services" - right?
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But I believe rhetoric from both government and opposition politicians achieves nothing and that long-term positive action (whatever that is) by government rather than negative quick-fixes is the way to make the current situation less rather than more likely in future.
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