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[challenge entry] he can do it

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(hamblettamaud, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 18:59, archived)
# i've got the urge to jab him with a stick in all 3 eyes
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:04, archived)
# yay!!
(I helped save b3ta! PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 21:39, archived)
# but The One Show starts at half past?
TJ: Has anyone here used Freelancer.com?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:06, archived)
# mmm Derren Brown. Totally would
although I expect you don't get a choice in the matter when he's around
(I helped save b3ta! Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:14, archived)
# I watched one of those Derren Brown experiment
The one where that poor bloke had all those bad things happen to him based on how the audience voted.
All the time the audience just thought it was a game show so was expecting that no matter how bad things got it would be ok because well it just a fucking game show after all do of course they were going to the way they did after all the worse things got the better the end pay out for the victim, right?

The Brown goes and pulls the trick where it looks like its all fucked and the bloke us killed it seriously injured and then has the fucking audacity to blame the audience for the way they voted and how my h they should all feel like shit because they were all so easily led. I'd have fucking lynched him the arrogant wanker.
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:19, archived)
# it's true though this is how democracy works
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:22, archived)
# IT'S YOUR FAULT I TRICKED YOU INTO "KILLING" THIS MAN
(User #86772, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:25, archived)
# I didn't see it,
but it sounds like a variation of the notorious Milgram experiment.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:28, archived)
# Fetch a mop!
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:29, archived)
# it's a bit like that
but more focused on deindividuation. People will be more liable to do something shite if they're part of a crowd, than if they are to be judged as an individual.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:31, archived)
# ah there was something about this in the news lately, I remember.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:33, archived)
# yeh
it can be applied to things such as rioters/looters, football violence, etc, where otherwise nice people break the law, sometimes disturbingly. I say lock them up and throw away the key, there's no room for this psychological science bollocks in politics.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:36, archived)
# yeah the scumbags,
death's too good for 'em.
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:38, archived)
#
Yes, "de-individually" lock up the scumbags and throw away the key. Yaaay! (imagine me doing finger quote marks)
(hamblettamaud, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 21:03, archived)
# I didn't see the show so I can't really comment on it
But it reminds me of this famous experiment:

everything2.com/title/Obedience+to+Authority

People are bastards.
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:29, archived)
# i thought it was quite a good way of demonstrating the power of a mob
kind of like a Milgram experiment, but done with a lot of people. I think it has some validity, though I agree that each decision was weighted in the way he presented the choices (I think that was necessary).

It's more likely that if the people in the audience were taken one-by-one into a room and asked to make the decisions by someone else, there would have been a major sway towards the less cruel (assuming the population of the audience was a roughly representative sample of the wider population).

It pissed me off that he didn't give a percentage of those voting for the cruelty after each decision. I like stats.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:29, archived)
# More mops!
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:29, archived)
# haha
it is a very famous experiment
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:31, archived)
# that and the Stanford Prison experiment
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:34, archived)
# true.
I'll raise you a Pavlov dog. Not relevant, just a famous experiment.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:37, archived)
# the other day I ended up here somehow:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement
(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:43, archived)
# ah, those were the days
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 19:54, archived)
# Precariously close to Ray Nelson's "Eight o'clock in the morning".
and a probable fan below I wager.
(I helped save b3ta! Christian's Bolt and Ski, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 20:10, archived)
# i dont even know who this guy is, but he looks like a cunt
(I helped save b3ta! PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage, Thu 3 Nov 2011, 21:40, archived)