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# damnit
one less voice of reason in the world :(
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:40, archived)
# I dunno toasty
To me he came across pretty much as opinionated and intolerant as the people whose beliefs he lambasted, and in his way he was just as dogmatic and entrenched in his own beliefs.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:52, archived)
# I have to admit that "reasonable" is not a word I would use to describe Hitchens.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 6:57, archived)
# well he never took to torturing people
like many in Iraq, Nicaragua, Venezuala and so forth that he spoke out against, so I'd say reasonable was quite apt.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:16, archived)
# I don't know of many circumstances where "reasonable" means "doesn't torture"
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:17, archived)
# Bwahaha!
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:19, archived)
# different definitions lol
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:22, archived)
# Which definition of "reasonable" means "doesn't torture"?
What an odd point to push.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:32, archived)
#
it is unreasonable to torture someone because you disagree with their beliefs.
it is reasonable to discuss how their beliefs differ and may be wrong.

or am I missing what you're trying to get at?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:38, archived)
# The homeless guy on the corner that babbles nonsense at the top of his voice never tortured anyone either. I wouldn't describe him as reasonable.
And really, when the discussion of differing beliefs turns into hatred and bigotry then any semblance of reasonability flies out the window.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:40, archived)
# Bigotry from an athiest?
Well now I've got to go and read up Youtube up on him.
Usually we're supposed to say that people can believe in bullshit as long as they don't inconvenience the rest of us, or something like that.
(Smoked Oysters Yes, magick helmet! And I will give you a sample!, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:56, archived)
# Nope, he's solid XD
I like Douglas Adams:

[probably paraphrasing]

I like thinking about religion, it raises interesting questions, like "Where did it come from, why is it here, how long will it stay?"
(Smoked Oysters Yes, magick helmet! And I will give you a sample!, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:11, archived)
# ?
All his arguments regarding religion were firmly based on the available evidence. I cant think of a more reasonable standpoint than that. He hated those who killed or harmed others in the name of their religion or had a hand in propagating lies across the world but for the average 'spiritual person' in the street there was only pity.
(benito vaselini no not that one, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:51, archived)
# he did divide people on many subjects
such is opinion
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:15, archived)
# His cancer memoirs in Vanity Fair were very moving.
I found him far more tolerable a voice against religion than Dawkins.
(I helped save b3ta! Bela Lugosi's Dad, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 7:43, archived)
# Opinion dude?
Lotsa' facts as well.
There isn't a single fact in opposition to the weirder parts of mythology.

//edit: oh man did I misstate that ;p

Douglas Adams said that he used to be "polite" about it too.
Now he's all burning in hell and stuff*.













*May not be true
(Smoked Oysters Yes, magick helmet! And I will give you a sample!, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:00, archived)
# That career in full
A: Black!
B: White!
A: Black!
B: White!
Hitchens: It's obviously blue. But, to draw on Dr. Johnson somewhat, colours are all shit anyway. And you people are preening little hedge-pigs.
A&B: We hate you.

~fin~
(Styvnn Grumbles, fumbles, stumbles and mumbles, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:52, archived)
# What Mofaha said.
Raving lunatics don't become 'reasonable' just because they agree with you.

There are plenty of raving lunatics I mostly agree with, while remaining aware that they are dicks.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 8:52, archived)
# So he was a dick
because he disagreed with you, very effectively?
And there are plenty of lunatics that you agree with?

Dude became reasonable by being reasonable, dude. Stop agreeing with the lunatics: good company or no company.

It sounds like you are already an atheist and ready to come out and join us.
(Smoked Oysters Yes, magick helmet! And I will give you a sample!, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:34, archived)
# No he was a dick, regardless of whether or not he disagreed with me.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:56, archived)