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# more of
a good save than a bad penalty
(I helped save b3ta! applehead herp derp, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:41, archived)
# 2nded
I don't think Beckham did a bad job of it, it's just that Barthez did a good one. the bald Frenchie bastard
(I helped save b3ta! frunt It's been a while..., Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:43, archived)
# Hmm
Couldn't give a stuff, football is shite. Tour de France glowing on the horizon... WOO YAY!!
(tdavidj, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:47, archived)
# ?
At least we can look forward to the excitment that is Wimbledon /lies all lies
(I helped save b3ta! magnum, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:48, archived)
# that
amazes me that does. the riders have more stamina than everyone on the board combined
(I helped save b3ta! applehead herp derp, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:49, archived)
# I don't understand why they don't stick engines on the bikes
Make it a lot quicker and easier.
(I helped save b3ta! magnum, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:50, archived)
# And why don't they find
a route that avoids all those big mountains. Silly frenchies. ;)
(I helped save b3ta! mechamatsimpsk, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:52, archived)
# hehe
(I helped save b3ta! magnum, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:54, archived)
# Don't forget to give me a shout if ever you come around my mountains
to see the Tour de France.
(I helped save b3ta! oCo, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:56, archived)
# Ooooooh!
Me and Phil keep on talking about hiring a camper van to follow the tour through the mountains. We never get off our fat arses and organise it, though
(I helped save b3ta! mechamatsimpsk, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:58, archived)
# you lazy brits you !
;)
(I helped save b3ta! oCo, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:59, archived)
# Too fucking right!
:)

edit: is it this year that the Tour's coming to London? Or is that still in the planning stages?

edit x2: ah, no, not this year, looking at letour.fr
(I helped save b3ta! mechamatsimpsk, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 15:01, archived)
# I like football
and I like the Tour

Therefore, I WIN!!!
(I helped save b3ta! mechamatsimpsk, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:51, archived)
# WRONG!
sorry, but his penalty was crap, when taking penalties you don't try and outwit the keeper, you just aim for a corner and Beckham's penalty was approximately 1/5-1/4 goal widths away from any corner. And it wasn't high and it wasn't low, it was at savable height.
(I helped save b3ta! fishsticks, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:48, archived)
# not every penalty
is a given goal though is it?
fact is his miss wasn't the turning point of the game. if france hadn't won the free kick england would've seen out injury time without conceding

edit: 2-0 would've made the win a little more secure, but we were holding them perfectly fine - they had minimal chances
(I helped save b3ta! applehead herp derp, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:51, archived)
# not every penalty is a given goal
but the goalie should have to make a fantastic, brilliant save for it not to be a goal. Barthez's save was ordinary. He dived the right way and easily got his hands to it.

Look at Zidane's penalty. Even if James had gone the right way, there would have been little cahnce of him getting it.
(I helped save b3ta! fishsticks, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:55, archived)
# you make a good point
but the goal wasn't required.
we were well on our way to winning the game until heskey fouled vieira
(I helped save b3ta! applehead herp derp, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:57, archived)
# *gets back a bit late*
er, yeh: what he just said!
(I helped save b3ta! frunt It's been a while..., Mon 14 Jun 2004, 14:58, archived)
# Technically no,
the goal wasn't required, we could have won 1-0, but any team 2 goals down on 90 minutes will tend to give up a bit, even France. And any donkey strikers whose team are 2 goals up don't tend to track back and try to defend much.
(I helped save b3ta! fishsticks, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 15:00, archived)
# the 2 goal lead
would've obviously have been a better cushion for us but again i say we were well on our way until heskey gave away the free kick
(I helped save b3ta! applehead herp derp, Mon 14 Jun 2004, 15:04, archived)