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Fuuuuuck!!

Well, I just watched Saturday morning TV for the first time in years...
What happened to all the hangover friendly light entertainment? I was
confronted with pubescent teenage girls with their chests contorted to
look like cleavage, lads who are all so fucking alike I SWEAR they came
from some pop research lab and they were all fucking miming at me with
their oh, so fucking sincere faces. Poor fucking kids growing up haven't
a chance with this shit assaulting their minds... This video came on
with a bunch of overprivileged brats talking about 'crashing the mall' -
they went to this place and hassled some poor fuck dressed as a hotdog
giving out free samples of grub. They took his grub and knocked him over
- Overprivileged little cunts hassling the working stiff with the
fucking worst job on the planet. I bet the hotdog guy would teach them
more about rebellion in 5 minutes than they have picked up in their 15
or 16 years on the planet. He probably shoved those free samples up his
ass before they ate them. Fucking rolling around shopping centres
presented as revolution... Wasn't that the Free Radicals (ha ha ha -
free? radical?) or some shit anyway?
*THINK HAPPY THOUGHTS - THINK HAPPY THOUGHTS - THINK HAPPY THOUGHTS*
Hey, here's a kitty!

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:03, archived)

rant?

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:04, archived)

well, fair enough to be honest

I completely agree, that's why I don't watch it. It is all too horrible.

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pep, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:07, archived)

It was upsetting -

I thought Gordon the Gopher was on.
:'o(

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:13, archived)

awww - that's terrible!

I hate that - you look forward to something and then tv lets you down.
At least we're still here for you.

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pep, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:35, archived)

It's the first

place I turned to for support - thanks all :o)

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:40, archived)

i was watching something or other last week

and saw the horror that is paedo-club juniors, or whatever the hell that sclub7 offshoot is. Christ almighty!

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rosey, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:35, archived)

I love you and your thoughts/ideas.

What you said is so true.......cloning pop has taken over. And little shits who have the run of this society get right on my tits (or moobs)

And you hear on the news that smacking kids is now being outlawed, so it will be an offence. Hmm, discipline, seems our Country or the European Union wants a generation of thugs and layabouts.

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koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:07, archived)

I only ever hit one

kid - he set fire to my hair on the bus so I missed my stop to follow him off and kicked him as hard I could up the hole - he started crying into his silk tracksuit/gold chain/sovereign ring/white trainer combo.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:10, archived)

I like

please get a photo next time...

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:13, archived)

This was

a long time ago - I try to avoid fighting these days given my oldness but it's kinda hard in this town with scally fucks hopping on you left, right and centre.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:15, archived)

Not a scouse fan then?

Could be worse you could be in - er well er - I'm still thinking can I get back to you on this?

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:17, archived)

Nah - I'm in

Dublin - little wispy moustachioed teen fucks going around imprinting their sovereigns in people's faces.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:22, archived)

Obviously

what we need is a really good war - wear we can go on rations have thousands of yanks stationed here and start singing good old tunes like the ones Chaz and Dave do - er i think not - heres to europe(you want to be the 53rd state?)

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:11, archived)

I love Europe

but not the piddly and silly law changes that they put onto us.

Anyone old enough or anyone with any intellect will have noticed the general discipline level reducing over the years. And this coincides with the "little shit" scenarios.

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koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:15, archived)

I would imagine teaching

a kid how to respect people as opposed to beating them up may be more beneficial...
Violence breeds violence breeds violence...

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:16, archived)

Yeah not all of it makes sense

but I think the issues with discipline are more to do with society's knowledge and tolerance of behaviour. News and they way it is reported, it is like advertising crime, when was the last headline with an upbeat theme? Rape is glorified, Peodophilla exempflified, and you can become a media celebrity if you can kill enough people....sad

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:21, archived)

I was smacked as a kid

for things that I did wrong......I also was taught how to respect as a flip of the same coin. I respect people whole heartedly and would never breed violence.

It's kind of an interesting argument this cos you'll find that nature's discipline is based on smacking/ostracising (spelling?)

Study animal nature progs and you'll see, this includes all apes/monkeys and horses, elephants, dolphins......intelligent species. It works.

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koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:21, archived)

Sorry about the earlier soapbox

but while I dont think you are completely wrong you are not completely right either - we have the highest form of comication of any species - the ones above don't, but I don't think I've ever heardof dolphins chastising one another?

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:24, archived)

I was never

hit as a kid, yet I also know how to respect people - not out of fear of punishment but just knowledge. I don't obey law at all - I just use my common sense and don't go round killing people and the like...

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:24, archived)

I think the difference

is that some poeple dont do it because they think it is wrong and some don't because they are afraid to get caught and dont like the idea of being punished, to smack or not to smack - a conundrum(fuk I cant spell that)

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:27, archived)

It is

indeed a two pipe conundrum...

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:30, archived)

It's a very very complex combination of factors

that have brought society to where it is, regards discipline it's not as simple as hitting = discipline, not hitting = less discipline.
I know we all know it's not clearcut but the way it seems to me Society and the whole human race are not going to have a very good future, and that's before you take into account any of the environmental issues which whill only increase the disruptivness of the evolving Society.
(or something)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:32, archived)

Can c y u r a

Prof - but I think one of the deteriorations is lack of contact, kids with parents, neighbors with neighbors, family the works - the alternate balance is we get to talk to a wider spectrum of people over the net, phone, workplace - is there a happy balance?

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:35, archived)

It's impossible to try and go back

to the 'family values' Mr. Major was so keen to impress upon us. The 'kids' today are fully empowered with information readily available to them that their parents often don't have so if information = power then suddenly the power has shifted to the computer literate younger generations and those parents who still only see computers as a thing off Tomorrow's world can get 'blinded by science' (like a "l-a-s-e-r" - Austin Powers) and the kids get a superiority complex and their parents REALLY DON'T understand them.
This is of course only true in some cases, it's impossible to speak generally about it but in a lot of cases it's true, thus increasing the usual amount of teen angst and rebellion to new and worrying levels.

(copied off the back of a box of Frosties)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:45, archived)

Before I spaz myself

an unhummus the board, just let me say - HERES to FROSTIES, without tony we be worse people....

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:48, archived)

Before I spaz myself

and unhummus the board, just let me say - HERES to FROSTIES, without tony we be worse people....

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:48, archived)

Yup - we're fucked

but I don't care.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:37, archived)

i fink we're totally sorted,

and the world is in fact totally fab. we've still got trees, kittens, beer, hedgehogs, sex, sunlight, etc. i can't understand dystopians at all

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spacefish bong!, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:46, archived)

Those we may have,

but we also have Tony Blair, Tipper Gore, GWB, thousands of multinational companies leeching the planet but protected by nation states... I could go on.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:50, archived)

Are

frosties 'safe' ?

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:54, archived)

the problem routine:

10 if you can't do anything about about it, goto 40
20 do something about it
30 if it hasn't gone away, goto 10
40 make the most of it

use this information wisely

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spacefish bong!, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 13:03, archived)

I think you made an error in your coding

Line 10 should read: go to the pub get drunk
Line 20 should read: End sub

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Choice, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 13:05, archived)

ooh

code optimisation!

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spacefish bong!, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 13:08, archived)

conversely

i'm a pacifish, and i was never smacked. i think the for/against-smacking argument misses the point, which is that kids copy their parents. discipline is not mistaken for angry violence, violence is not mistaken for discipline.

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spacefish bong!, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:29, archived)

I find this is the only therapy I need on a saturday morning

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FlanFlinger 🥧, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:07, archived)

an excellent choice, sir

/puts on infernal love

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spacefish bong!, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:08, archived)

Chirst -

Last time I heard that band was at a gig 8 years ago. Frank Black, RHCP and Ice Cube played as well, but Therapy stole the fucking show.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:12, archived)

you watched saturday morning tv

your punishment fits your crime, y'know

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spacefish bong!, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:07, archived)

Relax! There's nothing to worry about!

They'll all soon get drug addicted and die and our world will be nice again...
8D

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Kaiser, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:14, archived)

Junkies in Ireland

seem to be as resiliant as fuck - they're like fucking William Burroughs without the ability to articulate or form coherent (or even incoherent) thought.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:26, archived)

I'm not thinking of heroine addicts...

I don't know how it's like in Ireland, but here the youngsters are eating and snorting ecstacy and amphetamine like never before!
There's already lots of mental wrecks here because of that...

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Kaiser, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:34, archived)

There's that as well -

kids going out 5 mights a week taking 15 Es or 10 wraps of speed and going around like nervous wreck zombies the rest of the time... Not how I'd like to live.

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 12:39, archived)

it was fun

but its not a fun way to live but there's only one way to learn for some, ok:)

(dicky, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 13:38, archived)

So, um...

Nobody thought the pic was good, then?

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helmetcream, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 13:02, archived)

hahahahahaha...

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Kaiser, Sat 5 Oct 2002, 13:05, archived)