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# but which religion?
there are so many offshoots, extremes and minor versions that it's impossible to simply say Christianity any more. In the same way that you can't point at a suicide bomber and say Muslim.

Religion may well have been really good and nice once but then mankind got hold of it.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:21, archived)
# ^This
it's not the religions themselves (i.e. the words in the various holy books), it's the organised religions that use it to get their own way and tell others what to do.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:23, archived)
# I just agree with everything that Jesus chap said.
I think he was a pretty groovy cat.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:24, archived)
# ^This
Be nice to each other was basically what he said. Can't really disagree with that too much.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:25, archived)
# political agitator
and alleged son of god

good with MFI flat packed furniture too!
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:25, archived)
# yes
but those are things everyone could agree on even without religion, like the 10 commandements.
It's all about "how can humans live happily with each other".
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:28, archived)
# ^This
even if there is no God/gods etc. Religions basically all contain very good rules on how to have a large bunch of people in one place coexisting tolerably.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:30, archived)
# which are basically built in to us through evolution
in the same way that dogs live in packs and gorillas take care of their environment in the wild.

But religion doesn't like people suggesting that nature invented their rules or that evolution ever happened.

I'd like religion if it wasn't so manipulative and self obsessed.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:34, archived)
# Sorry, but I don't agree with that (first) statement.
Most "built-in" features like egoism and envy (which can lead to murder etc) are only kept at bay by cultural education.
Our natural drives are always struggling with our conscience, and when the concience loses, bad things tend to happen.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:42, archived)
# but how do you know what he said
when he said it 2000 years ago?
Journalists today can't get a quote right that was spoken yesterday?

Plus his words were first documented some 400 years after saying them according to most scholars dating of Bible number 1.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:28, archived)
# True
but as I'm not hurting anyone, I'll believe whatever I like.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:32, archived)
# thats fine and dandy and the best approach
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:36, archived)
# ^ FAG ENABLER!!!! ^
BURN IN HELL!!

:D

/LT
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:33, archived)
# The message is as it is.
You either agree with it or don't.

Unless you're saying that you do believe in Jesus and that he was the son of God, then obviously the authenticity of what's in the Bible is a lot more important.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:33, archived)
# although the bible was collated and published as ONE work
400 years after the events, the books and letters themselves were in wide circulation well before then. The old testament infact, was copied and copied for thousands of years and nothing was changed between them.
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:37, archived)
# are you sure?
isn't the da vinci code based on one error a monk made whilst translating the book in the 1500s?
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:43, archived)
# isn't the da vinci code a work of fiction?
(, Thu 12 Apr 2007, 16:52, archived)