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# I love travelling by train
Those pendolinos are great. Big comfy seats. Quiet zone enforced. LAptop and XDA plugged in charging up, film on the laptop, book on the XDA. All the tea and coffee you can drink for free and a free snack box. Evening meal if you are on the right train and at seat service. Huge table to cover with your newspapers PC magazines and tins of Stella. Yes, the train takes my strain.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:26, archived)
# I rarely
travel on trains, so always feel a little excited when I get in and they pull of...

Is this normal for a 27 year old...actually I dont care...

Edit: However, Oxford to Guildford does seem to take an unreasonably long time...
(I helped save b3ta! The4thCrystal Wishes he was better at photographamising..., Sun 13 May 2007, 12:29, archived)
# I'm over 30 and I still love trains
even though I go on 4 of them every day (until September when I'll have to start taking the Motorbike to work). I don't love them in a nerdy way, but there's no finer way to commute than being able to have a good coffee while reading to paper.

people who complain about them are just the kind of person that whinge about everything, or never go on them
(malvino warning profile may cause death an brain damage, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:32, archived)
# never sardined then?
:D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:42, archived)
# you obviously never caught my train
good coffee?? newspaper? Can't read one when you're squashed against the window.
(horrid, Sun 13 May 2007, 13:08, archived)
# hehe
I've often got to take the journey from Manc Picc. to Lon. Eus. And as I hate taking the car to London, it's such a pain in the arse when it's there and always picking up tickets so as I'm only ever in London from a few days to a couple of months at a time I simply refuse to drive and the train is great . ( better than flying because I have to get a lift to The airport in Manc, takes half hour, ten the flight, then getting a lift from Lon. to the city, it's a pain in the arse and takes longer than the train door to door. )
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:33, archived)
# I get that feeling from riding on the underground
and also taking the escalator. Perfectly normal behaviour (I hope)
(I helped save b3ta! Imhotep is Invisible - Consider this a divorce, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:34, archived)
# haha
Yup. Snap there.

Further childish excitement from taking off and landing in planes...

Edit: this will probably make you chuckle then: xkcd.com/c252.html
(I helped save b3ta! The4thCrystal Wishes he was better at photographamising..., Sun 13 May 2007, 12:36, archived)
# haha
I saw that a few days back. They really ought to put it on a shirt for me
(I helped save b3ta! Imhotep is Invisible - Consider this a divorce, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:46, archived)
# haha
I just get feelings of murder having to travel the Piccadilly line from Hammersmith to Green Park and back every day during rush hour. It's like Tokyo. I'm so glad to be back in rural Cheshire now with my feet up, choice of vehicles and windy lanes ;).
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:38, archived)
# the question is
what are your feet up?
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:43, archived)
# cow mimsy, probably
(I helped save b3ta! mutster101 fell over, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:50, archived)
# strange country ways
innit
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:55, archived)
# in the air
dammit! ;)

Actually I'm on the recliner with beer in hand eagerly awaiting the start of the Grand Prix de Catalunya. ( you know I'm a petrol head )
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:58, archived)
# yeah
drinking petrol

another country pastime

hehe :D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:59, archived)
# Come on, I don't have
a 4x4 ( although I'm tempted to buy a Mitsubishi Animal ) And I don't burn peasants to release their carbon.

( although the combined cubic capacity of all vehicles currently owned by this household is approximately 12.65 litres. Wow. I never thought about that before. That's shocking.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 13:08, archived)
# actually
I personally think living in the country _is_ a good reason to own a 4x4

depending upon your locality it can get quite horrific to get anywhere in bad weather

plus of course you are more likely to be using ufo's than public transport :D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sun 13 May 2007, 14:03, archived)
# I like trains as a concept.....
but most of the time, you end up paying through the nose for a pretty crappy service. Going north to south (or vice versa) is usually ok, but try going east-west.

(DrCJBoduma, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:38, archived)
# I'm sure it can be bad
but if I'm going anywhere other than London I'll drive. I simply use the train as I refuse to have a car in London any more. There simply is no need.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:41, archived)
# nobody drives in london
there's too much traffic

:D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Sun 13 May 2007, 14:04, archived)
# pendolinos are horrid
the voyagers are much nicer, bigger seats, wider aisles and more leg room. i have to get both between bristol and liverpool. realised the other day that the pendolinos operate to london because they can put extra carraiges in the middle, whereas the voyagers need to attach two trains to each other to get bigger.
you appear to be a first class traveller as well sir, can i have some of your money please
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:40, archived)
# I travel on both of course
as they operate both types on the mainline. There is little difference in the first class carriages, first class seats are just the same ( and not as near as huge and comfy as they once were. The main reason for wanting to be on a Pendolino is this. 2h 06m. That's 40 minutes off the travel time of a voyager.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:56, archived)
# never seen a voyager between liverpool and birmingham
since they stopped running the liverpool-edinbrugh line. i went on one of the tilting trains (dunno which one) about 6 months before the official launch.
since i travel in standard class i'll take the extra space and ease of moving around over speed.
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Sun 13 May 2007, 13:04, archived)
# The Pendolino
is the tilting train.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 13:13, archived)
# they both tilt
honest
(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Sun 13 May 2007, 13:42, archived)
# you one of those smug first-class bar-stewards then? ;-)
Well don't turn your nose up at me when I have to walk through your carriage ;-P Or I guess this is just the new virgin trains? It's all very well the new ones having all these bits and bobs, fat lot of good when you can't get a seat. My experience of Virgin trains is not the same as yours, but then I've only got one occasionally, usually on a weekend so probably not the best time.

I used to like the trains until I had to catch them every day. Stuck to some smelly knobber who's got his ipod on loud enough that people two carriages away can hear his shit taste in music. Late, full, slow, expensive. And I guess I used to get a train to go somewhere I wanted to go, once I had to start paying over the odds just to get to work they became less fun...

As for Great Western, give me the old Intercity over the new trains any day. Far, far, more seats, more space, more room for my bike(!)... on those trains I can read a paper, have a coffee etc in peace. The replacement trains they've got I can rarely get a seat, or being an antisocial sod, never get a seat not surrounded by idiots!
(horrid, Sun 13 May 2007, 12:59, archived)
# Here's the trick
if you know you are traveling, book in advance and book on the internet at www.qjump.co.uk. Not only will you save a lot of money you will get your seat reserved. Plus at weekends you can pick up first class seats cheaper than the standard fare ( little know secret that they flog off 1st class at weekends )
As for ipods I agree but sadly you can no longer do much about it as every arsehole has one. at least there is now a radio at every seat you can plug your headphones in and get 14 stations so you can ignore the ipod ignorant dickheads.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Sun 13 May 2007, 13:24, archived)
# Trains and train stations are romantic
I'm not talking about the daily commute/sardine hell but longish journeys.

It's all so civilised and dignified and beats flying anyday.
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Sun 13 May 2007, 13:04, archived)