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# Yes!
Well done.

Should I do this?
(Pachey, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:13, archived)
# Have they nicked stuff?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:13, archived)
# Once
ages ago
(Pachey, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:14, archived)
# Proof?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:15, archived)
# Let's all just send invoices regardless



8. Profit
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:15, archived)
# yeah
good idea
(I helped save b3ta! brianftang www.brianftang.co.uk, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:16, archived)
# only if they've nicked stuff that was yours entirely
(no borrowed source pics or owt)
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:14, archived)
# Oh bother
I shall have to create my own sauce from now on.
(Pachey, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:21, archived)
# not exactly
this is a pretty vague area as the creator of the composite should have certain rights.

I was given a consultation by a top IP lawyer just the other week (covered by a generous blog visitor).

However, it is something that emap can use to obfuscate the issue and delay settlement.

Believe it or not, Emap's lawyers - correction highlighted a recent report about intellectual property.
"Alexander Ross (from company that represents emap - my words) points out that the recent Gowers Review of intellectual property has recommended allowing free usage of pictures for satirical purposes. This would certainly be embraced by Rob Manuel of b3ta.com, a frequently hilarious site that thrives on its users scooping images from the internet and tinkering with them in Photoshop."

the story goes on with a quote from some ginger bloke :
"If you don't want to see your work used, then never show it to anyone." - Rob Manuel.


news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article2484225.ece
(I helped save b3ta! beaubodor blogless, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:21, archived)
# hahahahahah
yes, and I should be allowed to punch who I please
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:23, archived)
# Only if it's for satirical purposes


IANAL
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:24, archived)
# MERRY FUCKING HANUKKAH !
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:23, archived)
# Don't say that
It's months until my guilt trip phone call from my grandparents.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:24, archived)
# Better start polishing the Menorah
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:26, archived)
# Pfft.
In high amounts.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:29, archived)
# I don't mind it being 'used'
it's when it's used for other people's profit when I get annoyed.

I think you've mentioned that actually.
(Pachey, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:31, archived)
# yup!
it's when people make money or gain free marketing capital out of it.

As
Sony Pictures Home Entertainment
Universal Pictures
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
Icon Home Entertainment
Warner Home Video
Carphone Warehouse
Entertainment Arts
Momentum Pictures
Pathe Distribution Limited
Blaupunkt

and other companies do when they dole out prizes via Zoo to people who send our creations in.
(I helped save b3ta! beaubodor blogless, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:37, archived)
# it's a trickly and murky ground sometimes...
... and sometimes this is used in a rather cynical and overbearing fashion, but for now, I'll restrict my comment to Rob's quote:

We all gotta eat. Many of us use the interwebs to promote our talent and allowing the free/conditional exchange of watermarked work is part of that - but when there's profit to be had, we will want and deserve our fair share (whatever that may be). I doubt Rob gave this same advice to Joel during the recent Coke unpleasantness:
www.robmanuel.com/2006/12/13/is-coke-ripping-off-the-little-guy/
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:42, archived)
# and, I believe, Joel
gave his settlement to charidee.. which was nice.
(I helped save b3ta! beaubodor blogless, Fri 22 Jun 2007, 17:51, archived)