Yeahthat's what I usually do. But I did that today. I dunno why.
Uhm...not really. I don't think. It just happens. :]
(Uhm...not really. I don't think. It just happens. :]
Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:13,
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I'm waiting until you do some realisticish drawingsYou know, not on photoshop, not from reference kind of thing.
(I tried drawing two women embracing the other day without reference, not even in particularly difficult poses, but just didn't know how to get it to look right)
Unfortunately i'm the typical kind of cynical say-what-you-really-critically-feel-about-something-rather-than-just-saying-its-great-and-being-encouraging fellow.
As such, I pretty much believe one has to feel horribly outclassed and terrible to ever improve greatly at something.
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Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:22,
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(I tried drawing two women embracing the other day without reference, not even in particularly difficult poses, but just didn't know how to get it to look right)
Unfortunately i'm the typical kind of cynical say-what-you-really-critically-feel-about-something-rather-than-just-saying-its-great-and-being-encouraging fellow.
As such, I pretty much believe one has to feel horribly outclassed and terrible to ever improve greatly at something.
I amterrible at realism! I tried a water bottle the other day.
That's about the best I can do.
(That's about the best I can do.
Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:25,
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From reference?Honestly the only way you can improve is to forge your self loathing into a sword and then press on with in.
Also if your art teacher hasn't done perspective yet, kill him and have him replaced.
I mean I look at JollyJack and just want to hack off his hands and sew them to my own, hence why I refuse to use reference and just keep working.
So eventually i'll build up a solid mental stash of perspective, anatomy and poses to be able to draw imaginary scenes and catgirls licking shotguns.
Top tip: drawing in biro is helpful. Then if you make mistakes you just keep drawing over the lines in a vaguely expressionist fashion and also learn to work any mistakes out.
You can generally just keep layering the drawing until it looks right, like an oil painting.
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Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:30,
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Also if your art teacher hasn't done perspective yet, kill him and have him replaced.
I mean I look at JollyJack and just want to hack off his hands and sew them to my own, hence why I refuse to use reference and just keep working.
So eventually i'll build up a solid mental stash of perspective, anatomy and poses to be able to draw imaginary scenes and catgirls licking shotguns.
Top tip: drawing in biro is helpful. Then if you make mistakes you just keep drawing over the lines in a vaguely expressionist fashion and also learn to work any mistakes out.
You can generally just keep layering the drawing until it looks right, like an oil painting.
Yeah.I was really really bored in English.
I don't get art until next school year. I don't know what the curriculum will be like, though. I'm hoping to get some perspective and such, though. For perspective I've been doing a lot of googling on vanishing points and stuff.
I don't really like JollyJack's stuff, and here's why: He's really talented. He knows perspective, proportion, comic illustration, anatomy, all that. And he wastes it on those (IMO) shitty drawings of misproportioned catgirs and SWT. It's just unfortunate, to me, like wasted talent.
Biro? Really? Okay. I will remember that one. :]
(I don't get art until next school year. I don't know what the curriculum will be like, though. I'm hoping to get some perspective and such, though. For perspective I've been doing a lot of googling on vanishing points and stuff.
I don't really like JollyJack's stuff, and here's why: He's really talented. He knows perspective, proportion, comic illustration, anatomy, all that. And he wastes it on those (IMO) shitty drawings of misproportioned catgirs and SWT. It's just unfortunate, to me, like wasted talent.
Biro? Really? Okay. I will remember that one. :]
Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:35,
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Welcome to the club.JJ is a founding member BTW. [/;-D
Reality is, those are toss offs. His
talent is dark, and it's the ones
between the T & A that count.
(Reality is, those are toss offs. His
talent is dark, and it's the ones
between the T & A that count.
Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:39,
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Wait wait...he's a founding member? Why? If he doesn't like what he draws, then why not stop?
( Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:41,
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People in London wore black arm bands......to morn the 'death' of Sherlock.
And he's not that well paid at his day job.
But that's just my view. Ask him. He might answer.
(And he's not that well paid at his day job.
But that's just my view. Ask him. He might answer.
Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:47,
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Ooh.But...what has his day job got to do with it? Does he not get to be an artist?
( Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:53,
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He sells his drawings and comics.Or --anyone can be an artist... as long
as you add starving to the front of it. [/;-D
(as you add starving to the front of it. [/;-D
Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:58,
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Trekers and Jedi have nothing on the mania that killing him off led to.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes#The_Great_Hiatus
Mass culture, as the interbutts knows it, was born.
(Mass culture, as the interbutts knows it, was born.
Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:03,
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Well I meant what that had to do with JJBut I fear this thread of conversation has gone on so long that no-one is reading anymore.
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Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:06,
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A world without large breasted rodents!!!He'd be hanged, drawn and quartered by outraged nerds.
Indeed it has, and I've done my bit as JJ's apologist for now.
(Indeed it has, and I've done my bit as JJ's apologist for now.
Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:09,
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TOSS OFFS LOL
Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:48,
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Turn a rude phrase? Me?*plays first two bars of Steiß Bewegung on a glass harmonium*
( Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:34,
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I have no idea what SWT is (south west trains presumably)Well i've never actually seen JollyJack draw anything other than the kind of stylistic characters he draws, that's to say i've never seen him do anything Frank Miller style or something.
But it may be a case of his drawing ability and style resting in that kind of comic drawing. As for catgirls and stuff goes, many believe that the ultimate aim of art is to portray the human form.
If he wants to imbelish it a bit, I don't see the difference. I think most people if they could draw really well would want to portray men/women in vaguely romantic/erotic/pornographic situations. For the same reason they read and write romantic novels and literature.
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Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:44,
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But it may be a case of his drawing ability and style resting in that kind of comic drawing. As for catgirls and stuff goes, many believe that the ultimate aim of art is to portray the human form.
If he wants to imbelish it a bit, I don't see the difference. I think most people if they could draw really well would want to portray men/women in vaguely romantic/erotic/pornographic situations. For the same reason they read and write romantic novels and literature.
squirrels with tits.But i didn't feel like typing it out. Now I have. oh well. *shrugs*
No, I understand that, and like, I hear what you're saying. But it's just my opinion. I've never liked that big titted, overly skinny style, and then why you add the ears and tail, I just dislike it even more. ;]
(No, I understand that, and like, I hear what you're saying. But it's just my opinion. I've never liked that big titted, overly skinny style, and then why you add the ears and tail, I just dislike it even more. ;]
Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:48,
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Yes but most likely that's just a 'urgh men all like big boobs and blondes' type opinionWhatever your feeling towards his and his fan's motivations towards the art, it is essentially only a singular perspective.
Equally if you suddnely got ridiculously good at drawing someone could say, 'typical androgynous emo/goth/whatever boy types'. What a waste.
There's nothing against drawing what you like, although I suppose he may not neccessarily be overly fond of it given the amount of irony is some of the stuff.
Don't let whatever stereotypes or own life experiences steep your view of the validity of his work.
Also: I'm looking forwards to the androgynous emo/goth/whatever boy erotica.
*stares at watch*
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Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:56,
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Equally if you suddnely got ridiculously good at drawing someone could say, 'typical androgynous emo/goth/whatever boy types'. What a waste.
There's nothing against drawing what you like, although I suppose he may not neccessarily be overly fond of it given the amount of irony is some of the stuff.
Don't let whatever stereotypes or own life experiences steep your view of the validity of his work.
Also: I'm looking forwards to the androgynous emo/goth/whatever boy erotica.
*stares at watch*
It's not.It's just a 'if you poked she'd just fall. that's a bit silly' kind of opinion. ;]
Okay, good point. Fair, and all. Just unfortunate. I dunno. I'd love to see him post something else.
Also: Well, it's not gonna appear on your watch...
(Okay, good point. Fair, and all. Just unfortunate. I dunno. I'd love to see him post something else.
Also: Well, it's not gonna appear on your watch...
Killerkitti Like my coffee black, just like my metal,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12,
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that's exactly what I've been saying about JJ, too.but he never replies to me in his threads.
Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:47,
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I was including you in that club. Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:53,
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