
Jesus.. Only the most heartless, right wing, war obsessed cnut could call this situation a victory.
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 14:41,
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so maybe they made the sensationalist headline up
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 14:46,
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"The surge has done more than turn the situation in Iraq around – it has opened the door to a major strategic victory in the broader war on terror"
Opened the door marked "For the love of God, do not open", more like.
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 14:48,
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Opened the door marked "For the love of God, do not open", more like.

they have won, they get permanent war combined with an enemy they can scare the electorate with.
So it's quids in for Dick Cheney and all his mates in the defence industry, I mean whats a few hundred thousand dead Iraqis?
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 14:56,
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So it's quids in for Dick Cheney and all his mates in the defence industry, I mean whats a few hundred thousand dead Iraqis?

I'd say that the odds of a Republican win in any major election are pretty slim at the moment- people are getting VERY tired of the saber-rattling, combined with the general cluelessness of the current administration. Recently Dubya expressed surprise when told that gasoline had gotten to over $4/gallon in many areas. If that's not indicative of his being out of touch with reality, I don't know what is...
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 15:03,
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But America re-elected Bush. If you can fool the US electorate into doing that, then anything's possible, IMO!
Edit: On the other hand, we elected Blair..
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 15:05,
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Edit: On the other hand, we elected Blair..

I don't believe America elected or re-elected Bush. I believe he lost then cheated with the aid of his influencial supporters on both occasions.
Blair, on the other hand, was elected fair and square. I understand that's more of a comment on the lack of credible opposition in the UK, but him winning a third term was still frankly astonishing.
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 15:17,
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Blair, on the other hand, was elected fair and square. I understand that's more of a comment on the lack of credible opposition in the UK, but him winning a third term was still frankly astonishing.

not really when the opposition supported the war as well. Our politicians are such a bunch of arse-lickers..
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 15:23,
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There was a good reason that Al Gore raised such a fuss in 2000- he knew what had really gone on, but wasn't able to come up with enough proof. Hell, most of us knew... And in 2004, it was the same shit again, only with a narrower margin.
No question of it, he'll be remembered as one of the worst presidents of all time. If even Jimmy Carter says that about him, you know he sucks ass!
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Wed 19 Mar 2008, 15:26,
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No question of it, he'll be remembered as one of the worst presidents of all time. If even Jimmy Carter says that about him, you know he sucks ass!