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# ok my fine english chums, help me win an argument or tell me I'm wrong
'kick-off' should be hyphenated, correct?

It's not 'kick off'

The sentence is 'Summer kick off open house'
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:32, archived)
# I'd put a hyphen in
as otherwise the meaning is unclear
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:32, archived)
# Yes, yes it should.
The internet would tell you you could technically put 'kickoff', but I doubt the accuracy of this.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:33, archived)
# I agree, but I need proofage in the form of interweb links
help me prove the yankie scum wrong
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:35, archived)
#
http://www.hyphenmagic.com/usage
(I helped save b3ta! ArghZombies No longer has a Leaky QUIM, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:37, archived)
# If only I didn't use flash blocker it would get me everytime
nice try though, I clicked
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:38, archived)
# It was too tempting
"Please B3ta post a URL for me..." Hmm, that's asking for trouble.
(I helped save b3ta! ArghZombies No longer has a Leaky QUIM, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:39, archived)
# good work!
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:43, archived)
# We're all the proof you need.
Being English. The very type of person the language was named after. We MUST be right.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:37, archived)
# that's not gonna fly with these cunts

er, yes. Excuse me, yes. Erm.. my chums on b3ta said it should be hyphenated..

fuck off!
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:41, archived)
# Bollocks to you then.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:47, archived)
# *exempts self from this classification*
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:44, archived)
# There.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickoff

Any phrase where the words can be used in the same order but a different meaning needs a hyphen to relieve ambiguity. 'Kick off your shoes' etc
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:40, archived)
# thanks, but it doesn't really help
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:43, archived)
# Well the wikipedia link says it can only be 'kick-off' or 'kickoff'
www.answers.com/kick+off&r=67

dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=43607&dict=CALD

Basically English people use a hyphen and Americans just remove the space, but leaving a space between the two words in unequivocally wrong.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:47, archived)
# Thank you for trying
but again, unless I can present evidence which is watertight... well, they're all cunts and it's not worth it.
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:56, archived)
# Well I'd say a defintion by the cambridge dictionary, I could scan in an actual page from an Oxford concise if I could be bothered, is as watertight as watertight can be in language.
And anyone who disagrees with a University which spends its time researching the etymology and usage of modern and historic English is obviously an idiot.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:59, archived)
# you know, you're right. I'm going to slap them in the face with this and see what happens
thanks Jeru! I shall turn to you for all my future etymology questions
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 23:03, archived)
# I do my best not to want to kill people on the subject of prescriptive and descriptive language.
Although ultimately most Americans could do with being beaten round the face with all 24 volumes of the OED.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 23:10, archived)
# don't move here then, you'll puke on a daily basis
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 23:19, archived)
# I'd do the hyphen, yes.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:34, archived)
# hyphen
I reckon.
(I helped save b3ta! ArghZombies No longer has a Leaky QUIM, Fri 25 Apr 2008, 22:34, archived)