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# was it not an oppresive regime? a place where women were beheaded as a spectator sport?
i think someone needed to act
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:09, archived)
# like saudi arabia?
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:09, archived)
# no
not at all
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:10, archived)
# I'm very confused with who the bad guys are
I'd better read the daily mail

the voice of britain!
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:12, archived)
# ok
let me explain

the bad guys are the ones who are not like us

we of course are right


see - its quite simple
(I helped save b3ta! boff FL OZ, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:14, archived)
# IT'S SO SIMPLE!
:D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:15, archived)
# that's the way, or you could visit afganistan now and see some of the benifits the war has created for the people there
but i doubt you will bother doing that
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:16, archived)
# I don't think I'd be too keen
to visit a country where people blow themselves up on a regular basis.
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:18, archived)
# are you taking the fucking piss?

(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:19, archived)
# I'd suggest that you go too then.
Because it's not like that at all.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:24, archived)
# i've been twice
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:25, archived)
# And what parts of Helmand did you
see that were welcoming the fact that they still have worse reliability in the utilities they had pre-war and welcoming of the troops that are clearing IED's from their patrol routes daily?

Just because the Yanks have awarded contracts to their ailing construction industry in order to make the capital look good for journalists does not mean the country is benefiting. Why have they not rebuilt Kajak as promised? That would do the single best thing for the countries infrastructure than making hotels and electricity in the capital.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:33, archived)
# the mobile telephone network is much better these days, coverage is increasing daily
fibre optic broadband will also be supplied soon
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:39, archived)
# But it's not benefiting the nation
not at all. I don't want to argue with you Mongy, I've said before and I'm happy to say it again, I like you but I feel that people need to be careful with their opinions about these things especially when they are based more upon what propaganda they can read rather than the true state of affairs. Afghanistan was a lost cause 6 years ago and has not progressed on a national level since.
I see it from a soldier's view and it's really, really upsetting. People laugh and joke ( and are often quite insulting ) about me and how angry I get. Seriously, is it any wonder I and thousands of others are fucked up because of this? And we are the lucky ones.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:49, archived)
# was that meant to be a joke?
(I helped save b3ta! slight yoinks!, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:50, archived)
# no, why do you have a problem with your current service provider?
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:54, archived)
# That's your measurement of improvement for the people of afghanistan?
(I helped save b3ta! slight yoinks!, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 22:08, archived)
# Right then,
Let's invade Zimababwe, Saudia Arabia, Democratic Republic of Congo etc etc
(asciifaceofbob bob bob bob bob bob bob bob, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:11, archived)
# you will notice they are all warm places
why dont cold places have wars?
(I helped save b3ta! boff FL OZ, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:15, archived)
# Invade Iceland
(asciifaceofbob bob bob bob bob bob bob bob, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 22:14, archived)
#
They also used to push walls over onto Gay people.How weird is that? Guess it beats a 0-0 draw at Doncaster away on a Tuesday night
(Anal Baby You Smell, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:12, archived)
# Spreading democracy by waging war.
That'll show those heathen bastards how to be civilised.
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:15, archived)
# fucking hell is it left wing student night
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:17, archived)
# Hahaha
^this, I love the way students talk and shout loudly about life as if they know all about it when they are still at fucking school
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:21, archived)
# I love the way older people presume they have a grasp of reality because they are old.
Whereas in reality they just spout a different flavour of bollocks.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:33, archived)
# why are you bringing age into this?
are you saying that older people can't enjoy further education? you sicken me, you huguenot
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:35, archived)
# Leave my fucking nose out of this!
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:37, archived)
# Emm, perhaps because in general the older people in our population have had more experience of living life
I will grant you though that some don't seem to heed any of this

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(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:37, archived)
# They have an experience of living life.
Doesn't mean to say their experience is a good one, doesn't mean to say they are not selfish or racist. It does not mean anything.
If anything I'd say I've seen more people who count getting older and having family as justification to fuck over any other race, minority or class to keep their own unit in well heeled shoes.
(Jeru War and Piss, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:48, archived)
# Not really, nobody needed to act at all.
As its nobody's fucking business how a sovereign state does it's business. Taliban made themselves a target by allying themselves to Al Quaeda and given that the Yanks can't operate without retribution ( regardless of who actually takes the ass-whooping, as long as there is an ass-whooping ) then this whole sorry business started.

I'm sure that your intentions about women and oppression are all good and to be commended but you have to be clear that was never, ever the reason for the troops going in. The only reason it started is because Osama holed up there.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:17, archived)
# so we should just scrap nato
let everyone just do what they want, pol pot can be an example for all
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:19, archived)
# If they keep making it this easy for you
you're going to lose your edge. I'm concerned about you.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:21, archived)
# it's a sorry time
nobody has even mentioned the jews yet
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:22, archived)
# OH FUCK HE'S STARTING ON THE JEWS NOW
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:26, archived)
# HERE WE GO
it's on
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:28, archived)
# did you mean Israel?
(I helped save b3ta! slight yoinks!, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:40, archived)
# Just remember you are talking to someone that had to fight
this crap for NATO and the Yanks for 10 years.

And yes, you might as well scrap Nato because it is a useless entity. nato acts where America wants it to. As mentioned above there are much worse regimes in operation today that violate human rights, ignore NATO sanctions and nothing is don. Isreal have been ignoring a multitude of NATO sanctions since the 50's and nothing is ever done yet they have a vile human rights record and are still an occupying nation..

So yes, let people do what they want unless you are prepared to police the world and not just the bits that will improve your economy back home.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Fri 17 Oct 2008, 21:23, archived)