
it'll be bloody dangerous for their health.
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Find me some documentation on the health affects of smoking.
I think that statistically smoking over 20 a day reduces the life span by 2 years?
Compare this to car related issues - why do we allow ambulances to drive on hospital grounds? We should ban CDs TODAY - they are made with plastics.
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Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:10,
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I think that statistically smoking over 20 a day reduces the life span by 2 years?
Compare this to car related issues - why do we allow ambulances to drive on hospital grounds? We should ban CDs TODAY - they are made with plastics.

(he may have got this due to blood transfusions/shots in the Army, so another aside to this comment is to ask you if you've been tested for it).
He drank for years and years, which didn't help it, and really fucked things up for a long time. Cirrohsis, for one.
Are they going to demonise alcohol? Are they bollocks.
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He drank for years and years, which didn't help it, and really fucked things up for a long time. Cirrohsis, for one.
Are they going to demonise alcohol? Are they bollocks.

but on a much smaller scale
I reckon we will see tv ads for alcohol banned in our lifetime
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Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:16,
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I reckon we will see tv ads for alcohol banned in our lifetime

is equivelent of smoking two fags in terms of the carconegins you inhale
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Why is it I'm always stood/sitting next to The Man With All The Aftershave In The World On?
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But let's take it at face value. Maybe some lives would not be ended by ambulances if there were none. But a lot of people would be made worse off directly.
Now perform the same thought-experiment with cigarettes. Not quite the same result.
Look: of course there's a trade-off to be made. But noone'd deny that. And since smoking does nothing at all to promote health, and ambulances do quite a bit, it's clear which way the trade should go on that one.
The actual measure of the harm of smoking isn't all that important here, I don't think. It's just a matter of a body the function of which is to improve health deciding not to facilitate an activity that diminishes it. No biggie.
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Now perform the same thought-experiment with cigarettes. Not quite the same result.
Look: of course there's a trade-off to be made. But noone'd deny that. And since smoking does nothing at all to promote health, and ambulances do quite a bit, it's clear which way the trade should go on that one.
The actual measure of the harm of smoking isn't all that important here, I don't think. It's just a matter of a body the function of which is to improve health deciding not to facilitate an activity that diminishes it. No biggie.

i'd rather have lung cancer and know who the hell i am
than be eight years old again at the age of ninety
FACT
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Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:21,
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than be eight years old again at the age of ninety
FACT

get Alzheimer's - then you can forget you've got lung cancer
/logic blog
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Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:22,
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/logic blog

Or is it just a question which is hard for you to answer?
Ignore Ambulances - let's go with cars instead?
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Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:28,
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Ignore Ambulances - let's go with cars instead?

It's a different matter. I dig hard questions.
EDIT: OK, let's go with the car thing. I don't see your point.
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Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:37,
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EDIT: OK, let's go with the car thing. I don't see your point.

Why ban fags when you can ban cars?
Non essential journeys are just to make you happier - which is what fags are for . . .
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Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:55,
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Non essential journeys are just to make you happier - which is what fags are for . . .

... Noone proposed banning fags; that's not what the issue here was. Here, we were concerned with banning smoking in some places. Applying that principle to cars - that they should be banned in some places as well, seems straightforward...
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