why do you say that exactly?
M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:45,
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1) i was forced to buy it with my new laptopas far as im concerned I shouldn't have had to.
2) the first thing it did was phone home to the tune of 100 meg and then network connection was difficult to turn off.
3) it was not easy and intuitive to use (for me anyway)
4) it took a massive amount of resources with all it's crap.
5) Some kid burnt my neck. I could go on but this is funnier.
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Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:51,
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2) the first thing it did was phone home to the tune of 100 meg and then network connection was difficult to turn off.
3) it was not easy and intuitive to use (for me anyway)
4) it took a massive amount of resources with all it's crap.
5) Some kid burnt my neck. I could go on but this is funnier.
1. should your laptop have come with nothing at all on it?
2. I don;t know what 'extras' yours came packaged with, this is a 3rd party software free system
3. to each their own
4. see 2.
5. hahahahaah!
(2. I don;t know what 'extras' yours came packaged with, this is a 3rd party software free system
3. to each their own
4. see 2.
5. hahahahaah!
M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:02,
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1) yes, why not?2) it was windows updating, and it tried to download an office trial from MS
3) true
4) again this was vista making my life difficult, (I clicked the little thing that said disconnect and it either refused, or reconnected despite the option for automatic connection being off)
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Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:11,
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3) true
4) again this was vista making my life difficult, (I clicked the little thing that said disconnect and it either refused, or reconnected despite the option for automatic connection being off)
1. I agree. But I'm a geek and have OEMs of all OS' sat here so I don't want to pay for something I don't need. ( this is not the case for the majority of consumer )
2. That's just your ineptitude. It won't update anything you don't let it.
3. That's just your ineptitude and could be easily fixed.
4. It's better than anything previous and a rudimentary knowledge can soon have it streamlined like a bitch. A skinny bitch.
5. fucking French pyromaniacs.
(2. That's just your ineptitude. It won't update anything you don't let it.
3. That's just your ineptitude and could be easily fixed.
4. It's better than anything previous and a rudimentary knowledge can soon have it streamlined like a bitch. A skinny bitch.
5. fucking French pyromaniacs.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:18,
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2. it was the first problem, in the first time I used vista and at the time it waswasting what precious little uncapped internet I had left.
3. no I think my intuition is fundamentally different to what windows (and in some regards the gui approach on ubuntu) is designed for.
4. yeah but I'm not going to bother (yeah inherent laziness is a problem) because I know how to get a linux system running reasonably well (although my knowledge isn't nearly as deep as I want it). And I like curves. (Only to look at obviously)
5. I didn't like it.
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Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:27,
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3. no I think my intuition is fundamentally different to what windows (and in some regards the gui approach on ubuntu) is designed for.
4. yeah but I'm not going to bother (yeah inherent laziness is a problem) because I know how to get a linux system running reasonably well (although my knowledge isn't nearly as deep as I want it). And I like curves. (Only to look at obviously)
5. I didn't like it.
by 'ineptitude'I'm not trying to insult you and imply you can't do it. More that your lack of knowledge of the particular OS ( which as I said is easily fixed) leads to these issues and is not an inherent problem with the software.
( Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:55,
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I haven't had any problems with it
my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:46,
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You're just pissy because you've got sticky fingers and you can't work it,DUNCAN.
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Ttssattsr,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:48,
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my fingers are sticky with the wrong stuff :(I'll admit that my knowledge of it was not great, but I still don't like it. Thank fuck I never tried running anything scientific on it.
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Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:53,
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Vista isn't all that badit's just hated by the same people who probably hated XP when it first came out.
"we don't like change, not around here"
("we don't like change, not around here"
BleachedEgo draw a cdc then get back to your teen porn.Pricks,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:50,
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The "we don't like change, not around here"isn't really the reason that I don't like M$ OS.
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Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:54,
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you don't like itbecause it suits you to feel superior about being a unix geek.
That's fair enough but you know that 99% of home users could not begin to operate a machine under any unix, even Ubuntu so it's an impractical solution.
Also If you do a base comparison from any unix distro to an up to date vista 32 there is not one area that the geekos would fair better and I'm sure you know it.
(That's fair enough but you know that 99% of home users could not begin to operate a machine under any unix, even Ubuntu so it's an impractical solution.
Also If you do a base comparison from any unix distro to an up to date vista 32 there is not one area that the geekos would fair better and I'm sure you know it.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:00,
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points one and two are mostly correct.however I'm not convinced about the later.
I have a number of other reasons for disliking M$ (in general): I have an opposition to some of their business practices, the endless litigation etc.
Second, I don't like things which try and think for me. If I have a problem I want to understand its cause, change a line in a config file and have it fixed for good. This is somewhat difficult (in my experience, which I have to admit is limited) of windows.
Yes windows is an accessible os that can be made to do a decent job, although I think that it could be made to do a better job. And linux happens to suit what I want to do with it fairly well.
But it's the internet. I can't help but get pissy with other os/distros. :)
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Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:08,
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I have a number of other reasons for disliking M$ (in general): I have an opposition to some of their business practices, the endless litigation etc.
Second, I don't like things which try and think for me. If I have a problem I want to understand its cause, change a line in a config file and have it fixed for good. This is somewhat difficult (in my experience, which I have to admit is limited) of windows.
Yes windows is an accessible os that can be made to do a decent job, although I think that it could be made to do a better job. And linux happens to suit what I want to do with it fairly well.
But it's the internet. I can't help but get pissy with other os/distros. :)
I understand what you are sayingand you know I play with all sorts of gear so I do have half a clue.
What I'm trying to say is that an inherant hatred for M$ has nothing to do with how well their products work.
I'm no fanboy but as a windows user since3.0 ( and even had a play with 1.0 ) Vista 32 is currently the most stable and efficient mass market OS to be found.
(What I'm trying to say is that an inherant hatred for M$ has nothing to do with how well their products work.
I'm no fanboy but as a windows user since3.0 ( and even had a play with 1.0 ) Vista 32 is currently the most stable and efficient mass market OS to be found.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:12,
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It is true that a hatred for M$ doesn't make their products badI think that if microsoft abandoned some of their dodgy practices (ie buying the competition and whatever else the corporate side gets in trouble for) and focused on r&d (which it seems no one wants to do these days) they could make really good software.
I remember using windows 3.0 on top of MSDOS 5.0. I don't think I ever saw 1.0 but I might have on a demo machine. Strangly though I spent most of my time trying to program utilities in msqbasic so I can't say I used the gui very much.
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Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:33,
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I remember using windows 3.0 on top of MSDOS 5.0. I don't think I ever saw 1.0 but I might have on a demo machine. Strangly though I spent most of my time trying to program utilities in msqbasic so I can't say I used the gui very much.
the trouble with most unixOS' is that they don't look any better than windoes did 25 years ago ( when they stole their gui from Xerox )
( Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 23:51,
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to be fairpre-SP1 both XP and Vista sucked mightily
i quite like vista to use, but trusted computing scares me a bit
(i quite like vista to use, but trusted computing scares me a bit
spacefish bong!,
Fri 6 Mar 2009, 22:59,
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