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# ah, right
i never watch any of the soaps, mawkish twaddle.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:02, archived)
# nonsense
Coronation Street has some great humour

Eastenders, on the other hand, *is* mawkish twaddle
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:04, archived)
# it's the most tongue in cheek of all the soaps
I still don't watch it though.

There was great Docu on BBC4 Saturday night about Island Records


(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:05, archived)
# That Grace Jones is a dirty bitch
(I helped save b3ta! Geoff the Clownfish You know Myra, some people might think you're cute, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:07, archived)
# That's a bit racist innit?
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:08, archived)
# Um, no
(I helped save b3ta! Geoff the Clownfish You know Myra, some people might think you're cute, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:31, archived)
# I saw some of that on Friday
I'm gonna record it if they show it again
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:09, archived)
# Eastenders has a fantastic sense of humour.
It's just a lot darker and not camp.

EG: when Barbara Windsor started there - a woman pretty well entirely famous for her boobs - one of the first things they did was give her a mastectomy.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:06, archived)
# hahaha
I can concede that is indeed funny - although by the standard of the scripts, I suspect it may have been unintentional
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:10, archived)
# Eastenders is the only one I watch
and even that now is losing my interest
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:09, archived)
# I watched Eastenders for the first time in months on Sunday
And got mightily pissed off at the gay fella for getting blackmailed by the local dogs. It'd be fookin cheaper for him if he just told Ian his cafe had burned down.

And DOT! I think the last time I watched it her son was trying to kill her and now she's surprised when he comes back and does it again!
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:19, archived)
# Christian will be alright
he's snogging a Muslim this week.

Muslim's are up in arms, apparently, over this 'sensationalist storyline', I assume because there are no gay muslims
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:23, archived)
# I wish I had so little to worry about that I got offended by stuff on TV
(I helped save b3ta! Joliet, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:25, archived)
# Urgh, mawkish northern nostalgia versus eastend violent nostalgia.
Joy.
(Jeru War and Piss, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:10, archived)
# it's a pity Crossroads isn't on any more
you could have had mawkish Midlands nostalgia
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:12, archived)
# My mate was in that.
He got £5k for a week's work.

What did he do? Bought a new car and went skiing.

The mug.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:18, archived)
# how silly
he should have bought skis
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:19, archived)
# They're all shit
a waste of time which draws people into living their lives beholden to characters on a screen and demands the attention of the viewer several times a week to keep up with rehashed and completely unrealistic storylines, always overplayed and overacted, and generally odious pieces of television.
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:20, archived)
# Completely unlike the news
Or Panorama.

Or any other telly.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:25, archived)
# those programmes you mention have individual topics which have a defined beginning, middle and end
you can start to watch programmes like that knowing they will reach a conclusion (irrespective of the content or the way it is being delivered)
Soaps just run... And run... And run, for the sake of it
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:27, archived)
# Bollocks
The news has been running far longer than any other soap.

"The News" - brought to you by The People Who Deem Themselves Qualified To Tell The Masses What Is Important.

(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:35, archived)
# the news centres around different topics,
hence my comment about content. You aren't beholden to have watched a previous news episode to enoy the current news episode, it's certainly not integral to the longevity of the news to have watched it constantly.
The soaps centres itself on one group of people, rehashing the same old shit.
X marries Y
Y gets up the duff by B
B threatens to chin G for running off with P
etc etc
The 'news' covers different stories, which are followed from a beginning, middle, and end where applicable.
You appear to be making this into something to do with the news specifically, which I was not.
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:43, archived)
# A bit like the news. I mean
That the Labour Party suffered significant losses at the European elections relies on you knowing what the European elections are, who the Labour party are, and what their margins were beforehand, or you're completely scoobied.

I am drawing the comparison because claiming soaps are mindless rubbish is pretty meaningless when compared to - well - everything. It entirely depends on what one holds up to be "valuable" or "good" information.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 16:16, archived)
# I never stated they were 'mindless rubbish' though (even though I do think this)
I just object to the hold they have over many members of the public through a self serving attention seeking rehash of old and tired cliches. People get genuinely pissed off if they miss an episode, or they reschedule their lives so they don't miss their 'fix' 2,3 or more times a week of something that, quite frankly, is utter drivel and inconsequential

The fact that some people will see these soap 'stars' in public and go and batter them or sound off at them because they perceive them as their soap charcater is proof of the hold they have.

You'd never go up to Huw Edwards and knee him in the bollocks because he was the person who presented a view to you about the Middle East situation would you? But, if Trev goes and batters Little Mo, people get up in arms. It really is quite cringeworthy. Anyway, just an opinion :)

(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 16:24, archived)
# indeed
I hardly watch any TV these days
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:04, archived)
# agreed
BBC one is shit as is ITV (apart from harry hill), i don't get Channel 4 as I live in Wales and receive the welsh channel which i can't understand.

I'd be really pissed off if I paid my TV license
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# My parents got me a TV license for my uni halls
I literally cannot remember when I last watched TV
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:09, archived)
# your not missing out on anything
:)
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:13, archived)
# nonsense, Big Brother is back on
oh wait now - I see your point
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:14, archived)
# I sky plus BB
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Mon 8 Jun 2009, 15:25, archived)