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if you have you ps3 chipped then yes

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Paul_P, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 13:47, archived)

I didn't think it was chipped yet.

(waxdart hello., Wed 28 Oct 2009, 13:49, archived)

it's not been chipped successfully...yet

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 13:50, archived)

I read a very interesting report on two games companys in trouble from proven piracy

one an iPhone developer who recorded 99% usage from pirated copies of their game (that Apple are yet to try and stop) and the other being the excellent Pixeljunk people who are giving up making PSP titles due to the hacks there.

In simple terms, stop fucking pirating stuff you cunts, you're stopping games even getting made now!

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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 13:53, archived)

I also heard World of Goo has a 99% piracy rate.

They also said they are doing incredibly well though, and in fact for their one year birthday they let people pay a donation of whatever they want for the game as low as $0.01.

(Jeru War and Piss, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:04, archived)

I seriously think this is the way forward

at least for PC games.

I recently got Championship manager for £2.51

There's no packaging, shipping costs. Your marketing costs are next to nothing because word spreads so quick of the deal...

And you cans till shift a fair few copies at the shop price (29.99) to those who haven't heard of the deal

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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:07, archived)

Well most PC games do that with digital download after a while.

Once everyone who has feasibly bought a copy has bought one, it goes on steam or whatever for cheap, and they get whatever it is minus the service's fee.

It's still gonna be just as expensive as a digital download new though, largely because big non-indie companies sink so much fucking money into development and advertising now it's not even funny.

(Jeru War and Piss, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:11, archived)

The market now

is worth more than Hollywood though, so I suppose they think it's worth it.

I think Charlie Brooker said that GTA IV was the first game to cost over $100 million... that is insane

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Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:43, archived)

100million and a nice tax write off too.

Its nice to see games companies grow up.

Have a read - Hollywood accounting..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting

(waxdart hello., Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:51, archived)

You'd have to be clinically insane to think you can make money from iPhone software anyway.

And PC games ain't gunna be hard to crack at any point.
Closed systems like the PS3 are the only way for games companies to make money unless they bother to consider lowering the price for consumers.

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Quijibo Esq. BSc. May contain traces of nuts, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:13, archived)

Bloody right!

Maybe I wouldn't have got made redundant at Christmas if there had been a bit more confidence and money in the UK game dev industry.

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Jay, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:14, archived)

I don't download and I wont buy DRM games.

99% of games are not worth being downloaded. 100% of games are not worth £40.

I've saved over a grand on not up grading my PC as the games I really really want to buy "at full price" are full of DRM dial home log in crap.

Bargin ps3 games are all i'll buy these days.

SecuROM is malware by any other name. stuff like that.

Edit: and piss on windows live.

Edit2: and find a DS game that doesn't suck beyond belief.

Edit3: some games maybe worth £40; but 6 weeks later they cost £30?

(waxdart hello., Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:22, archived)

I think £40 is a bargain for Batman

I must have spent well over 20 hours on that before my BluRay packed up, £2 an hour is a fucking bargain

In fact most of the games I buy last me well over 20 hours, LBP, Tekken, Star Wars Force Unleashed, Ratchet and Clank. I think the £40 mark is sound, especially as that usually means £30 off Play

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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:26, archived)

I want to get it for the PC. Would have upgraded the whole system..

needs windows live account. No thanks.

Its £25 on the PC. but it comes with all the DRM windows live install / login problems.

(waxdart hello., Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:29, archived)

you don't actually need to connect to windows live, you can create an offline account and still play the game

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pzyko Query failed., Wed 28 Oct 2009, 15:11, archived)

It’s more a principle

Any online activation = no
Any DRM software checking installation = no

I paid for the software, I shall not be treated as a criminal. Criminals download the software without any on-line activation and or DRM software and typically have a better experience because of it.

I’ve taken my money elsewhere. rather a lot of it. I'm shocked I used to spend that much.

Have been meaning to buy World of Goo as it is drm free; but I don’t spend that much time using the PC for non-work stuff.

(waxdart hello., Wed 28 Oct 2009, 15:20, archived)

Some great games at the mo

About 10 hours into Borderlands, loving this so far, got Tekken 6 coming up this weekend, Modern Warfare 2 will pretty much end what's left of me social life lol

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Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:48, archived)

i got red orchestra on steam for 5 euros, best bargain ever

but i cant play it cause my laptop is too slow.

(Rattlehead all time with the gay, forever touching, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:29, archived)

In my opinion (and I realise you don't share it and that's ok)

COD4 and COD:WAW have been easily worth their price tag. I have had literally days of play from them. Comparing this to the price of a cinema ticket or a new hard back book or a nice meal or a DVD etc., then I think you get great value for money.

Many games do suck though.

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Jay, Wed 28 Oct 2009, 14:31, archived)