About time, too!At last. Someone who isn't just complaining about the inconvenience of the postal strike, on a forum populated by people who most likely rarely use royal mail anyway.
The posties are striking for a good reason and I think it's a shame that more people don't understand or applaud any kind of industrial action these days.
Few people these days are prepared to accept the fact that they are albeit the modern, service-oriented, phone-monkey, home-owning version of working class and so fail to recognise when people are standing up and fighting against the cynical, profiteering business and political classes who see us as drones in their money-oriented travesty of a social system.
(The posties are striking for a good reason and I think it's a shame that more people don't understand or applaud any kind of industrial action these days.
Few people these days are prepared to accept the fact that they are albeit the modern, service-oriented, phone-monkey, home-owning version of working class and so fail to recognise when people are standing up and fighting against the cynical, profiteering business and political classes who see us as drones in their money-oriented travesty of a social system.
4Q just lurking,
Sun 1 Nov 2009, 1:09,
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But...Industrial action is fine if it's only affecting the company the union is striking against and not the general public, but for people like me that run a small business and either rely on cheques arriving on time (so we can pay our own employees and suppliers) or delivering goods to other businesses or consumers, this kind of industrial action is seriously hurting us too – and all because they can’t get round a table an work out their differences like grown-ups.
I don’t profess to know all the ins and outs of why they can’t negotiate a settlement, all I know is their actions are indirectly hurting the small businesses of Britain just as we’re trying to keep our heads above water at the end of a year long recession. I wish they would just go back to work and if need be strike next year when we’re out of recession and better able to cope with the consequences of their actions.
(I don’t profess to know all the ins and outs of why they can’t negotiate a settlement, all I know is their actions are indirectly hurting the small businesses of Britain just as we’re trying to keep our heads above water at the end of a year long recession. I wish they would just go back to work and if need be strike next year when we’re out of recession and better able to cope with the consequences of their actions.
OldWhit,
Sun 1 Nov 2009, 10:27,
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Your attitude is astounding.Basically, you're saying "I don't know and I don't care".
Well you should, because the posties are getting screwed.
If your business model is so weak that a couple of days of no post is going to ruin you, then your business model is pretty fucking shit.
Start paying a different courier, then you'll know how much it really costs and realise why the posties are trying to keep your service so fucking cheap, you fucking cheapskate.
(Well you should, because the posties are getting screwed.
If your business model is so weak that a couple of days of no post is going to ruin you, then your business model is pretty fucking shit.
Start paying a different courier, then you'll know how much it really costs and realise why the posties are trying to keep your service so fucking cheap, you fucking cheapskate.
finnbar has officially retired,
Sun 1 Nov 2009, 11:17,
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SighNo that's not what I was saying, and I don't think attacking me personally and reducing my opinion to a simplistic statement of "I don't know and I don't care" is very productive.
I was merely saying that other hard working people (mostly small and family run businesses) who have had a difficult enough time with the recession and credit being pulled by banks are the real losers in this pissing contest between Royal Mail and the CWU.
I hope the posties do get their way but not at the expense of other companies that aren't large enough to weather all these negative external forces - and yes, my business is strong enough to survive these strikes and many more, but I know of other companies who are more reliant on the postal service and telling them they deserve to be ruined because they rely on the Royal Mail is pretty harsh. The reality is that if they do survive, they will adapt and they will use alternative mail delivery services - like Amazon is now doing.
(I was merely saying that other hard working people (mostly small and family run businesses) who have had a difficult enough time with the recession and credit being pulled by banks are the real losers in this pissing contest between Royal Mail and the CWU.
I hope the posties do get their way but not at the expense of other companies that aren't large enough to weather all these negative external forces - and yes, my business is strong enough to survive these strikes and many more, but I know of other companies who are more reliant on the postal service and telling them they deserve to be ruined because they rely on the Royal Mail is pretty harsh. The reality is that if they do survive, they will adapt and they will use alternative mail delivery services - like Amazon is now doing.
OldWhit,
Sun 1 Nov 2009, 15:10,
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what you are experiencing is the power of organised labour.that's kind of the point with strike action. it shows the bosses that the workers are pretty indespensible and when organised can't be fucked around.
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tickle I was away,
Sun 1 Nov 2009, 14:10,
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