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This is a link post Green Party economic incoherence
apologies for the UKIP caption on the vid, not my doing. She doesn't start too badly, bleating on about how the Green Party has already changed the world and some of the same old platitudes and generalities about the NHS, but at 4:10 it becomes comedy, time stamped for your convenience.
(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Good God that's awful
Like a real life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxO_wp0AQqY#t=1m11s
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:19, Reply)
This is a normal post This would be the interview I heard her apologising for on the radio four news at lunchtime?
The Green Party do seem to be a bunch of well meaning lunatics
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:19, Reply)
This is a normal post they're just not trained in the usual media ways that Camelliband and co are
give it time, they'll sound like all the others soon
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:21, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not entirely sure all the training and experience in the world could convince me of their actual policies though

(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Quite.
All the media training in the world cannot help someone who can't explain how a fairly simple policy will work or be funded. It's not rocket surgery.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Is this any better than a slick lie from another party?
Where the answer sounds convincing but the reality is the policy fails to meet its goals and comes in vastly over budget?

Not that I'm defending her, the interview was embarassing and I had to switch off (plus I'd finished my poo)
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:58, Reply)
This is a normal post I read through some of their policies
and quite frankly shuddered. Seriously, we give Ukip a hard time because people perceive them as dangerous radicals, and not this lot as well? Our economy will be completely and utterly fucked under the Green Party, which worries me equally as the mood of the nation under a Ukip governemnt
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:16, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think anyone expects the greens to be running the government
but having to consider the environmental perspective of any new policies is a good thing, and a hint of green in a coalition would help
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:23, Reply)
This is a normal post because
she clearly had no idea whatsoever. At least with Labour and Tories they know their bullshit and at least can construct an argument. You may not agree with them or believe them, but there is at least some semblance of coherence and/or plausibility. This silly sausage is asked "how's it going to work love?" and replies "I'm not sure, I've got a cold, I'll get back you on that sometime, maybe." This was the leader of the party, on the day they've blocked booked the media to officially launch their election campaign, talking about a headline key policy. Hope this helps, chum.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:16, Reply)
This is a normal post I agree with both yourself and Jahled on the point
that she should be a slicker leader or stop the bus and get off, but being a skilled bullshitter should equally not be an acceptable stance for a leader.
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Listen chum,
don't misuse reflexive personal pronouns. You can call it bullshit if you like, I have no problems with that at all, but in politics plausibility and credibility are everything. If you devise a policy, you need to be able to explain how it will work and be paid for. Nice ideas aren't worth the empty box of lentils they were written down on.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:34, Reply)
This is a normal post "Listen chum don't misuse reflexive personal pronouns."
You are Russell Brand AICMFP
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Was before
and NigelFarage and GeorgeGalloway and CharlieHebdo and PaulDacre etc etc
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:56, Reply)
This is a normal post I meant literally

(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 18:27, Reply)
This is a normal post "Plausibility and credibility are everything"
If you accept politicians statements at face value. And if you do you're an idiot.
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 20:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh, the old "they're all cunts" argument.
Might be true, but where does it get you Russell Brand? Now go and finish your homework.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 21:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Not trusting politicians at their word
is not the same as "they're all cunts"

But I'm not surprised you see no difference
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 21:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Alright love
no need to get your knickers in a twist. Now be a darling and go and put the kettle on; men are talking.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 21:42, Reply)
This is a normal post "men"
you need to have a penis to class yourself as one of those

cupcake
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 21:47, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh I've got one, wanna suck it and see?
Sugartits.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 21:56, Reply)
This is a normal post why would you want a blow job
when you're obviously a wanker?
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Can I jizz
On your tits?
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:12, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes
if you can reach from there

anyway, can we continue this tomorrow, I have a busy day of marine science painting my nails, flicking the bean and washing my smalls
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Fair enough
those dolphins won't study themselves.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 23:57, Reply)
This is a normal post How insulting
I don't study no god damn charismatic megafauna
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 0:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry
that plankton won't etc.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 0:47, Reply)
This is a normal post Some of their policies are pretty good.
I don't have much confidence they would have the ability to implement many of them, and the interview doesn't help with that.

That said, I don't think many people vote for them expecting them to win.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:14, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm obviously sympathetic to a great deal of the Green's agenda, having worked in conservation for almost ten years
but a lot of it simply fucks me off completely. Lunatic things you would expect to be there on hard lefties list of loonie things like the promotion of vegetarian food, cuts to defence, unbanning membership of banned Islamic groups, spending our salaries for us through taxation, and generally lots of other things which remind me of all the worst bits of the hard left labour party in the 80s.
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Seriously? You're going to lump together
defence cuts and promotion of vegetarian food?
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 20:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Why yes
both are demented loonie left ideas, I thought I made that quite clear.

'Promoting' vegetarian food for a government means spending lots of tax payers money on that promotion which i'll be fucked if i'm voting for. Meat has been a stable of our diet for tens of thousands of years, is tasty, healthy, and will be become more expensive as a consequence of making vegetarian food cheaper. There is a big difference between junk food and good food, just because we live in a nation where so many have diets that are utter shite, you can't put that one eating meats door. Promoting healthy diets, not discriminate against part of it because you have an over sentimental view of herbivores that have evolved to be grazed upon.

Sort of thing
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 21:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes you've explained the arguement about promoting vegetarian food quite well.
And people are entitled to disagree with defence cuts.

Lumping the two issues together?
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Err
..because they both seem to be on the Green Party's agenda?
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:14, Reply)
This is a normal post You still haven't explained why the two issues are both lunatic
and lumped together. Many people would agree with one and not the other for wildly different reasons
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Because they are in my mind
but I sense because you're pushing the issue anything I type will be lost on you, and it's late, and I want to chill as I have an early start tomorrow, and have a cold
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Lost on me
how politely patronising
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:37, Reply)
This is a normal post I've had half my eye on the television on BBC4 about Russian cosmonauts for the past hour as well

(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:59, Reply)
This is a normal post I believe that a vegetarian diet has less environmental impact,
so I can see why a green group would want to encourage it for reasons other than just not killing animals.

Stuff like this:
www.livescience.com/22814-meat-eating-vegetarianism.html
(NB I have no idea how trustworthy that blog is, and global population would seem the real problem there)

Likewise, most people eat too much meat - a truly healthy diet would see a reduction for most people.

That said, as far as I can tell, their only policy related to vegetarianism states "The Green Party will ensure that high quality, nutritionally balanced vegetarian and vegan menu options are widely available and promoted in all public sector establishments such as schools, hospitals and care facilities", so their concern seems only for existing vegetarians rather than spending money on promotion.

It still seems an expensive promise, but it is one more concerned with healthy diets than promoting vegetarianism.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Any environmental impact is because this planet is massively overpopulated
And if that's used as an argument what's going to happen when growing crops can't feed everyone, which will inevitably happen? The crunch is human population
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 22:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Blasphemy. You can't eat too much meat!
On a serious note, you really cannot compare nutritional value of meat/meatless diet/their nutrition density thus the whole "equivalent/environmental impact" argument is moot.
 (I helped save b3ta! omnitruncatedkraken from Empire Algol, Wed 25 Feb 2015, 16:06, Reply)
This is a normal post ^

(I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:30, Reply)
This is a normal post This
Most politicians just confidently answer a different question when asked something they can't answer and hope no one notices. At least she tries to answer the questions directly.

The interview does play like a terrible Dragon's Den pitch, though.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:55, Reply)
This is a normal post you think that's bad
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DEnO3Snb3g
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:19, Reply)
This is a normal post That's funny
because she starts off saying no to the questioner but it rapidly becomes her saying no to the lady being questioned saying she'd answer. To be fair to the daft bint being questioned, she has held her hands up to her fuckwittery, but she is the actual leader of the Green Party, she really ought to be able to back up a key policy articulately.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:38, Reply)
This is a normal post from what I heard while half listening, the policy unveil is in a few days
so the problem isn't a lack of knowledge its possibly not being allowed to say before the unveil - so whoever booked the interviews/launch date needs sacking.
but as I say, was only half listening
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:01, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm watching rolling news now.
it was an official launch, but as you say there is some kind of policy 'unveiling' to come. Why have the launch and not unveil all policies at that point? Given she's the leader, yet seems to be out of the loop with a flagship policy, that's kind of weird. Whatever, it's dead in the water before it was launched, much like the inexplicable universal non means tested Citizens' Income. These people are loonies, just a mirror image of UKIP.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Ooof
I didn't think I could cringe that hard.
 (I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:42, Reply)
This is a normal post argh!

(I helped save b3ta! h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Tue 24 Feb 2015, 17:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Greens = spliffed off her tits

(Spin Its a thing., Tue 24 Feb 2015, 16:54, Reply)