It's the hyperbole that gets me.
If I weren't so keen on the idea of the EU and generally pleased with what's been achieved I'd probably vote to leave just to stick it to Cameron out of sheer bloody-mindedness.
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jonbob loves you, Tue 31 May 2016, 19:32,
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Pretty much that.
I work for a French-owned company on a Europe-wide project. My job has taken me across four European countries, my boss is French, and members of my immediate team originate from Spain, The Netherlands and Italy.
I've seen what benefits membership of the EU brings, and as yet no-one has provided me a compelling reason to throw that away.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 31 May 2016, 20:19,
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Fuck both the campaigns for that
But here's what bothers me about the whole EU thing. It's been clear for as long as I can remember - possibly even since the Maastricht Treaty was signed - that the UK population had no idea what they were getting out of the project. We've all heard about the money that flows to Brussels the French farming subsidies, the financial basket cases that some of the member states turned out to be. But who is publicising the positives? If the positives are there - and there must surely be some - why did it have to get to the point where we're at risk of leaving before hearing about them? How can an organisation that big be so bad at PR? Is it that they just didn't care what we think?
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Tue 31 May 2016, 22:11,
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Last word
In large part, I'd say Britain's problem is that our politicians have treated us with so much contempt over the last 25 years when it comes to Europe. They've been grandstanding so much over what bezzie mates they are with the German Chancellor of the day, or crowing about how much they won from the most recent treaty negotiations, to the extent that they haven't levelled with the electorate about what they're doing, and why, and why it's important.
Both camps have such utter, utter contempt for the people they're asking to make the decision they don't have the balls to make themselves.
Cunts.
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Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Tue 31 May 2016, 23:07,
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