Meh
I already gave up on humanity after being told displaying an England flag was 'clearly racist'
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Tusk knows where you live, Fri 27 Sep 2019, 23:50,
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It's not
but only racists tend to do it.
Take from that what you will.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 0:21,
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I take from that
1. Sweeping generalisation
2. Lacking evidence of any kind
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 1:56,
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^ Sweeping generalisation and irony
Lacking evidence is a given
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 12:42,
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Let's get a data point then.
Do you know anyone who displays an England flag (not a union jack) on their house or vehicle who is not a racist?
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 17:05,
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Well that would be anecdotal evidence either way
Not evidence that proves anything
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 21:07,
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In my (very limited) experience
it's only white, English people that consider it racist.
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Tusk knows where you live, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:18,
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I think 'racist' is over egging it
I'd call it banal nationalism.
But whether the person flying it tends towards civic nationalism, or ethnic nationalism is probably a fair indicator of how racist they are.
(, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:01, Reply)
I'm Dutch.
I like England (and Wales)
I collect classic English cars.
I have Union flags in my garage and small ones on my cars
I occasionally have an English, Welsh or Union flag on a pole.
What categorie am I in?
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Tusk knows where you live, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:11,
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In this case neither
you sound like an Anglophile, which is lovely, if weird to me.
Sometimes people get over zealous in the quest to end racism.
We're all a little bit racist, even if it's in ways we don't understand, but that doesn't make us inherently evil, humans just come with some evolutionary baggage, and some of us encourage those traits in our kids.
I think it's how people face that baggage that makes or breaks them.
just my opinion.
(, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:20, Reply)
What I don't get
is why the Union, Welsh and Scottish flags are fine, but the St. George's cross is controversial. I could understand it if it were a flag of a nation with a terrible history like, say, the nazi flag, but the English one should, if anything, be the opposite of that.
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Tusk knows where you live, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:32,
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it's hard to put a finger on exactly
It's just a vague sense of something.
for a while it was used by nationalist groups like the BNP, and though it's been re-appropriated more recently, nationalist groups like the EDL still use it.
I guess the association lingers at the back of the mind for some people, even though in other contexts it absolutely shouldn't be a problem.
(, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:40, Reply)
What's wrong with Scotland
and Northern Ireland?
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monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 12:56,
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I've never been to Northern Ireland.
In England or Wales, when you drive 30 minutes or so, an entire new type of beautiful landscape unfolds in front of you. Scotland, or at least he highlands, is just all the same. I once drove from Wick to Ullapool via the coast and it was just hours and hours and hours of the exact same huge grey mountains. Not the place for someone who's easily bored.
Mind you, I quite liked the south and the west coast of Scotland, but, being a racist, I just lump the whole of Scotland on the same heap.
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Tusk knows where you live, Sat 28 Sep 2019, 14:09,
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