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OK hand sign added to list of hate symbols

( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 17:53, Reply)

( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 18:32, Reply)

Although in Japan it signifies money.
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 19:04, Reply)

but if your arsehole looks like that, I'd be worried.
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 19:07, Reply)

I'm a regular Richard Baer, me! Sig Heil and all that stuff. Lovely.
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 18:39, Reply)

Don't show the video to barst, though. He'd likely burst into flames.
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 19:15, Reply)

( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 19:21, Reply)

( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 19:46, Reply)

If the ADL say some people are using the okay hand sign as a symbol of white supremacy, while the vast majority still use it to mean okay, it seems quite reasonable to think that is the case. I doubt they just made up. So that's it. In some contexts the okay symbol is used to convey a belief in white supremacy. It's not even wierd.
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 20:13, Reply)

( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 20:29, Reply)

The meaning of symbols doesn't change over time!
Things which are true once, are true foreverrrrrrrr!
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 20:43, Reply)

Hiding real intent behind irony, so they can deny it.
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 21:29, Reply)

I already gave up on humanity after being told displaying an England flag was 'clearly racist'
( , Fri 27 Sep 2019, 23:50, Reply)

but only racists tend to do it.
Take from that what you will.
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 0:21, Reply)

1. Sweeping generalisation
2. Lacking evidence of any kind
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 1:56, Reply)

Do you know anyone who displays an England flag (not a union jack) on their house or vehicle who is not a racist?
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 17:05, Reply)

Not evidence that proves anything
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 21:07, Reply)

it's only white, English people that consider it racist.
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:18, Reply)

I'd call it banal nationalism.
But whether the person flying it tends towards civic nationalism, or ethnic nationalism is probably a fair indicator of how racist they are.
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:01, Reply)

I like England (and Wales)
I collect classic English cars.
I have Union flags in my garage and small ones on my cars
I occasionally have an English, Welsh or Union flag on a pole.
What categorie am I in?
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:11, Reply)

you sound like an Anglophile, which is lovely, if weird to me.
Sometimes people get over zealous in the quest to end racism.
We're all a little bit racist, even if it's in ways we don't understand, but that doesn't make us inherently evil, humans just come with some evolutionary baggage, and some of us encourage those traits in our kids.
I think it's how people face that baggage that makes or breaks them.
just my opinion.
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:20, Reply)

is why the Union, Welsh and Scottish flags are fine, but the St. George's cross is controversial. I could understand it if it were a flag of a nation with a terrible history like, say, the nazi flag, but the English one should, if anything, be the opposite of that.
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:32, Reply)

It's just a vague sense of something.
for a while it was used by nationalist groups like the BNP, and though it's been re-appropriated more recently, nationalist groups like the EDL still use it.
I guess the association lingers at the back of the mind for some people, even though in other contexts it absolutely shouldn't be a problem.
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 10:40, Reply)

In England or Wales, when you drive 30 minutes or so, an entire new type of beautiful landscape unfolds in front of you. Scotland, or at least he highlands, is just all the same. I once drove from Wick to Ullapool via the coast and it was just hours and hours and hours of the exact same huge grey mountains. Not the place for someone who's easily bored.
Mind you, I quite liked the south and the west coast of Scotland, but, being a racist, I just lump the whole of Scotland on the same heap.
( , Sat 28 Sep 2019, 14:09, Reply)