you seem really keen to re-engage with me, must be the 10th time you've brought these points up in recent weeks
I've been avoiding it because I said my piece at the time and have nothing to add, I know you think any attention is validating for you. But for me it's just not fun reprosecuting them with an alt-right dullard, it's not like you learned anything the first time around, but if I do it a final time will it stop you splattering your upsetness every time I post in these pathetic attempts to insult me?
Probably not.
I'll try to be concise as I can, but you asked for this
briefly, my claim was that the taliban became more strongly supported by ordinary afghanis rather than the occupiers because they successfully provided a system of justice and dispute resolution, filling the void created by the US occupation. That this was more important to them than things like letting women study in the greenzone bubble and that many credible voices on our side on the ground in afghanistan were saying exactly this thoughout the conflict, that we were losing the battle for hearts and minds in that pointless wasteful bloody war. direct.mit.edu/isec/article/42/1/114/12167/Why-U-S-Efforts-to-Promote-the-Rule-of-Law-in
this is why there was almost no afghani support for the puppet regime in Kabul, which collapsed within a day of the US withdrawal with nobody opposing the taliban takeover. I know you have processed this as "cumquat say taliban good", but as I said, you're a little slow, and hence any nuanced argument is lost on you.
On Biden, I said in 2022 there was insufficient evidence to give him a clinical diagnosis of dementia based on tv evidence, and that the rightwing blogosphere, those that are now claiming Kamala is a moron and a communist and previously that hilary had brain cancer, were not reliable sources. I said in the comment you linked to that Biden may very well may have early stage undiagnosed dementia, but that you couldn't infer that from his gaffes alone, and he still showed (in 2022) the ability to make extended non-autocued speeches that would be difficult for someone with alzheimers, and gave a link to a recent speech Furthermore his lifelong neurological difficulty in ordered speech, his stammer, would make any diagnosis more difficult. In fact, re-reading that comment it's remarkable how reasonable I sound, and I stand by those comments. It's evident that he has gone downhill faster than normal aging decline since then, but this is by the by. My speculation would be parkinsons rather than alzheimers. My timeline is supported by Clooney, who said publicly that he was having normal conversations with Biden in 2022 but not in meetings with him in 2024, an honest intervention that thankfully helped precipitate his withdrawal from the race at a key moment when that was uncertain. I'm fine if you want to link to my comment again.
As to the huw edwards, my only comments were about his paying a man for nude photos, which was consensual transaction that neither party had an issue with. If I had an issue, it sounds like he overpaid for the snaps but that's his business. As someone who was denouncing the onion as homophobic, missing the satire entirely, I'm sure you support me in this given how much you genuinely care about gay rights. He's since got into trouble for possessing underage photos, and while I haven't commented on this, if his guilty plea is taken at face value, he was in a whatsapp group where blokes share gay wank material, some bloke offered to share some dodgy photos and Huw says his text history shows he specifically said he didn't want them if they were dodgy, but the bloke shared them anyway and whatsapp automatically saves any photos to your library which is the offence he has been charged for. I guess we'll find out if he's telling the truth in the sentencing, but on the surface it doesn't sound terrible, an old gay bloke who likes looking at gay porn. Christ know what we'd find if we looked at your browser history
And as to your weird continued refrain about thread deleting, I put it down to some Trump-like ability to reverse unpalatable reality in your head where you accuse other of things that everyone knows you're guilty of. The event a few years back that seemed to permanently trigger you was when you were saying something idiotic and disprovable (as usual), and thread deleted your entire argument along with everyone else's comments . As if this wasn't enough, you then had the moronic temerity to then claim you were winning, and were mocked. Perhaps you found the whole thing so humiliating that you've reinvented reality rather than accept it.
Here's the link to you admitting deleting an argument in a flounce because you didn't like the way it was going b3ta.com/links/1432636 . There are others. I've been on B3ta 20 years and there''s not a single example of me thread deleting a conversation, because I honestly don't care enough to ever do it even if I am wrong, and consider it very poor form and something only dicks like you and sockcooker do. The fact that you just continue to make this accusation knowing how easy it is show that it's something you do makes me think I'm dealing with a mentallist, rather than just some triggered tory who likes to cos-play offence if it suits. I know this whole response will just trigger more mentallism, but it's not like ignoring you stops the seething upset, that much is clear
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 4:11,
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lol TLDR
You can’t half go on, you tedious cunt.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 11:39,
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ha, of course you read it, who do you think you're kidding?
you remember every last one of your embarrassing messes, referring to long forgotten humiliations from years ago. I'd be flattered if you weren't so stalky and upset about it.
what you've always lacked is the intellectual capacity to respond. I guess you can always delete this one too
here's that one again: prufrock's thread deleting hissy fit
lol
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 12:17,
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You really are a narcissist if you think I could be bothered to read that epic triggered rant.
You’re like Polonius, but not as much fun.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 12:43,
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b3ta.com/links/1432636
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 12:45,
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An honest admission which brings into sharp relief your dishonest denials of the same behaviour.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 14:05,
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ah, so you're now admitting to being a thread deleting cunt?
I mean, you could hardly deny it now, could you? But I guess that's progress of sorts. baby steps
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 14:41,
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Did you actually read the archived comment of mine you posted? You’re so thick.
I remember when I called you out on the same behaviour you lied and lied and lied saying it wasn’t true, then went rather quiet when two other users also said it was true. Are you senile? Or do you just have a stammer?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 14:50,
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aww, and I really thought we were having a breakthrough
now it's back to the fantasies, where I'm the thread deleter and all the various threads you've deleted weren't embarrassingly bad arguments. Im afraid there's been no progress nurse, the patient is still convinced he has credibility. Our radical treatment of exposing him to the blatant reality of his own actions hasn't worked
Even the irony of claiming to not to read something then combing through my links for a lifeline is lost on him
lol. I'm off to bed.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 15:34,
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You know you’re lying, and I know you’re lying, but the worst part of it is that you know that I know you’re lying.
It explains a lot of your other arguments. I guess if you think you kept lying with all your like minded pals, Biden wouldn’t be senile. I guess if you and your like minded chums kept lying about Huw, he wouldn’t be a nonce.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Wed 4 Sep 2024, 16:50,
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that's disappointing, you had all day to come up with something and I return today to some "i know that you know that i know you're lying" blather
people can see you're a thread deleting delusional mentallist, prufrock. it's there in plain sight
people see your stalky and increasingly unhinged obsession with me. it's there in plain sight. there's not even any context to it anymore.
I don't have to lie, i just comment on things like other b3tans and it's all still there, and if it wasn't for your weird, years long quest for comeuppance i would long have forgotten about your humiliating failures. Now the only place where you don't sound like an obsessed idiot is in some private fantasy where you've convinced yourself you said stuff that was really clever and cutting in threads you then decided to delete.
I have noticed over the years it seems to go in phases. Maybe you're off your meds or had a change in carer or something
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No, it’s not all there and you know it. I’ve called you out on it before. You’re a lying cunt and you know it. At least I have the balls to admit deleting a thread, but you continue to deny having ever done so because you are a lying piece of shit.
Typically what you used to do was wait until the thread had dropped off the front page of /links and then go and delete the most egregious examples of your unhinged bollocks. Deny it all you want, but I know you’re lying, you know you’re lying, and you know that’s exactly what you used to do, but like all your arguments, you seem to think if you repeat the lie enough it will become true. Tragically for you, that’s not the case.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 5 Sep 2024, 1:18,
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you didn't have the balls to admit anything
you accused me of something you do, and have been forced into conceding only after I've repeatedly posted examples of it. If you had any self-respect you'd apologise but you're too cowardly, and just make more absurd claims
There's a lot more than the ones I linked to, I tried to search for past discussions i recalled but all I found was a bunch of orphaned comments. So it's not even just hissy fit deleting after embarrassing yourself, you've gone back in and deleted most of our history going back years, so all that's left are my replies. It's all kind of weird and pathetic.
I can post examples if you like. As usual I'm supported by that pesky thing called reality. you can try and sanitise your own history but you can't mine.
If you search for thread deletion you find a lot of other people accusing you of the same thing, but nobody accusing me. funny that. My comments about all the things you think are damning in your current manic phase are all still there. I'm fine with them if people want to read, though nobody is obsessed the way you are. I imagine this whole thread will become another one you delete, and then make all sort of claims about what clever things you imagined you said.
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You are a shameless liar. You’re just performing because you imagine people are actually reading this, but no one cares, it’s just you and me, and I know and you know you’re lying, and indeed projecting your own behaviour on to me.
Your ability to lie like this explains so many of your utterly moronic opinions. Biden isn’t senile, he just has a stammer. Edwards isn’t a nonce, it’s just a storm in a teacup. Afghanistan is happy and free under the Taliban. Lies, lies, lies. You’ve a real talent for it. All those endless anecdotes too… you’re a fantasist.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 5 Sep 2024, 13:06,
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I'm not performing, prufock
I'm just curious to see if you have the self awareness to realise the mentallist you've become when shown it.
Somebody who not just deletes threads, but seems to have gone back and deleted much of their interaction with someone, to then accuse me of being a thread deleter? That's pretty weird. Why would somebody do that, unless they're a mentallist. That's what projecting means, prufock, when you accuse me of something that I easily prove you do but you can't show a single example of me ever doing because, as I've stated honestly, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about
The sad thing is that instead of growing, of becoming more mature as the years go by, you're becoming more unhinged, more upset and obsessed, probably worse than sockcooker. Do you remember him, coming into that blokes thread accusing him of noncery? That lasted a several months and was quite disturbing. You've been at this for years.
Now look in the mirror and say to yourself, "I've become worse than sockcooker".
Look at what you've become, so upset that you're no longer even trying to find fault with what I say, you're just coming in to all random threads like the ecstasy comedy link I posted above, talking about biden and noncery, just like sockcooker did, for reasons that must make sense in your brain, but it's mental behaviour.
I'm fine with what I said, I repeated my positions above, but it's just opinion, adults can talk about things and debate and discuss and disagree, only you are acting like an obsessive mentallist about it. Do you have the self awareness to see that?
But this is just the latest. There's been other several other mental phases when you've done this, I can't remember about what now, and can't search back because you've deleted it.
I'd like to think you have these little flashes of self-awareness and realise what a dick you actually are and try and erase your embarrassing stuff, but I doubt it. I think it's just part of your mentallist obsession with me and "showing me up". I was honest last time when I offered if you want to admit you have a mental health issues, you can do it privately in gaz and i give you my word I will keep it confidential and will treat you more sympathetically. I don't think about you the way you obsess about me, to me you're just some wierdo who hangs out on a comedy website but acts like he's in a daily mail comments section
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actually, fuck it. I'm also certain I've said all these things to you before, it didn't make any difference. Let me try another tack, if you'll indulge me
please, lie down on the couch and make yourself comfortable
Now, going by various clues I've gleaned from over the years I'm going to make some educated guesses.
The first of which is that the literature and/or poetry aspect was in your youth, and still is, important to your identity. In one of the links you state "what could go wrong arguing about poetry with someone who calls himself Prufrock". And there are plenty other clues, the polonius comment for example, the way you seem to get particularly upset when pulled up on grammar and lexicology. It's important to how you see yourself and your ego is still very much tied to it.
The next educated guess is that in your life you are not following this passion or doing anything creative, writing or following that dream, and nobody else acknowledges this aspect of your identity, and that you have a mundane existence. Perhaps you were scared you didn't have the talent, or events and the necessities of living conspired to prevent you. So in essence this is a thwarted ambition, an unfulfilled dream, a gulf between what your life actually is, and what you wish it could or should of been and how you see yourself. But you still have this ego, this "i coulda been a contender". And thwarted ambition and that difference between your actual life and how you see yourself leads to resentment, to jealousy, to sensitivity to anything that might challenge that self-image as it's all you have.
So when I come along, and I remember the first few things that really set you off were me pulling you up on grammar, all that resentment, that bitterness, is focused on me. "If I can show him up, if I can find a fault or win an argument it will prove to my own ego that I'm not a failure". So you try but it keeps backfiring. It turns out this australian is intelligent and widely read and well educated. Each attempt makes your obsession with showing him up greater, but oddly harder as you start to lose perspective and coherence and start to become unhinged. He's also done things with his life, worked in different places, lived in different countries, and this makes you hate and resent him even more.
But here's the thing. it's not really about him. It's about you coming to terms and being at peace with your own life, prufrock. Letting go of that ego. showing me up won't reverse how your life has gone, you've just made me a cipher for that. None of our lives worked out exactly how we wanted them, at least no one on b3ta. I did those things I tell anecdotes about, I'm no liar as much as you wish I was, but they were in the past. My existence now is very surburban dad, taking kids to soccer matches and trying to make the best of things, including coming to b3ta to amuse myself and amuse others in return. There's plenty of regrets and missed chances. I see b3tans who've like Joel who've backed their talent and got shows commissioned and it makes me wish I was braver when I was at the BBC and had the opportunity. But I don't resent them, what's the point in that? I'm happy for them and support them because it's cool to see a b3tan do well, what they've done is not about me.
If you came to peace about yourself, to not be so hard on yourself, you wouldn't resent me. you wouldn't be chasing me around like sockcooker. I'd be just another b3tan, with their own interests and tastes. You could relax and have a laugh and not take things so seriously, and even deal with being disagreed with. You might even try your hand at doing something creative of your own, write some poetry, do an essay. You're not dead yet. Click "i made this" and you'll find people are supportive, I try to be when it's their own work. It doesn't have to be a masterpiece first up, creativity's a muscle you exercise. It'll fill that void about how you feel about yourself much more than you imagine finally winning over me will
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If you look up "retarded" in the dictionary, it links to you two arguing on /links.
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great bunch of +
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brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Fri 6 Sep 2024, 22:49,
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How much for you to delete the entire thread?
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prufock assured me it was just the two of us reading this
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