I live on a street full of these idiots,
it's fucking scary close up so it's actually quite hard for me to laugh, particularly when she says 'My Son takes care of himself!', which translates as 'Once he's out the door it's not my problem till the police come knocking, and then we'll just fuck up whoever called the police'
The longer I live here, the more right wing my views are getting about such anti-social benefit scum.
My idea: Tie in social services and police records with the benefits agency. Persistent anti-social behaviour by you or any member of your family leads to reduced benefits and eventually to being forced to work or lose your council house, behave, control your kids and leave working people the fuck alone and you can get it back.
It won't solve this kinda amoral behaviour but it will mean we don't all have to pay for it directly through our own property and rights to such things as sleep just 'cos we live near them.
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..wil, Wed 7 Jan 2009, 21:32,
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WiL for prime minister
I too go to school in an area like that and i truly agree. Year 8 pregnant girls are nasty lookin'
and why the fuck do they get EMA money just for turning up the fuck scroungers
And another thing......
(, Wed 7 Jan 2009, 21:40, Reply)
^This.
Luckily, at my sixth form college all the chavs dropped out after GCSE, leaving me with all the younger lot.
One year 10 got sent to my biology class today and spent 25 minutes disrupting a much needed revision session for an exam I have next week.
(, Wed 7 Jan 2009, 21:48, Reply)
I used to get that when I took classes at college (Teaching Assistant for Graphic Design)
my solution was first of all to explain that this was not school and they didn't need to be there (so not useful in this instance) and secondly if they wouldn't behave to stop everything and tell them if they didn't want to join in to go do their thing outside the classroom, or at least away in a corner so the rest of us could get on, which made them feel excluded and embarrassed so often took the wind out of their sails (teens are very easy to embarrass), and when I got the chance I'd have a personal chat and always made it clear that I was happy to find them something to do if they'd do it quietly so long as they didn't disrupt the class for everyone (and often that 'something' would be the actual WORK!)
Interestingly once you get them to see it not as a contest of 'you can't make me' but as a 'try it and see if you're any good at it' option they often got into it and did pretty well.
Didn't cure every situation but there was always at least one in every class and I noticed from other tutors that the more you react or threaten them the less they'll listen or join in (because you really can't make them and they know that), so you had to give them options and try and make it their decision.
Didn't stop me wanting to just slap the 'Rebel Without A Clue's petulant little face and tell them 'Trust me, despite what GTA teaches you, a white spotty faced kid in York who travels everywhere by bus and has less street cred 'respeck' than a teletubby is never gonna make their living as a gangster rapper', tho...
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..wil, Wed 7 Jan 2009, 22:27,
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If you reduce or stop their benefits
they will rely more on crime to fund their habits. No employer wants these people (would you employ them?) and they will not get up and work for £5.93 an hour.
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Grindstaff, Wed 7 Jan 2009, 22:05,
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Then they'll end up on the streets and then prison,
so what's the problem? It was their choice.
And they will get up and work for 5.93 an hour if the above is their only other option.
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..wil, Wed 7 Jan 2009, 22:30,
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Then you're paying for them anyway surely?
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boyo81 was laying down his ordinance on, Thu 8 Jan 2009, 9:35,
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Eeeexactly
Take away basic support and muggings and burglaries will go through the roof ... you need to deal with the root causes of how people become unable to contribute to society, not just go 'oh well, the damage is done,' and write them off.
(, Wed 7 Jan 2009, 22:55, Reply)
They're not unable, if they're able to break your windows, climb thru it and steal your telly,
they would be able to fucking work, they just don't wanna because they don't have to, our taxes keep them alive, the property of the work force provides them with all they want and breeding gets them even more benefits.
But I don't give a fuck, it's not about 'punishing' anyone for their chosen lifestyle, they can be as useless and poor and drug fucked as they like, what I seriously object to and think needs to stop is the fact that the 'chav culture' means they spend all day every day being as obnoxious, loud, intrusive, destructive and in every way as disruptive to the general surrounding populous as they possibly can, even breaking up their own homes, and why? Because it's fun, they have nothing to lose (it's not their home, it's not their stuff, they didn't have to work at or struggle or earn any of it) and nobody can do anything about it, so fuck it.
I think that is intolerable, it completely destroys the local area, and we should treat them the same way as you would an unruly teen, take away their basic comforts until they shut the fuck up and get some fucking manners to those providing everything for them, in short, teach them some respect for the rest of us paying their taxes and making their life choice possible, or lose it.
I really don't think it's much to ask for a life of leisure and a roof over their heads, and I don't think giving folks everything they need regardless of how they behave or how little they give back is the right thing to do, and I honestly do think it will ultimately pull this whole country down with it if we continue to allow this situation to expand.
There has to be an 'or else' for law and societies basic rules to work, otherwise it's just a joke.
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..wil, Thu 8 Jan 2009, 0:13,
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i kinda think
that all benefits/government money [including child benefit, pensions, ANY money that comes from the state] should be paid into an account attached to a debit card [indistinguishable from a regular card]. You can top up this account with your own money, but you cannot withdraw cash from it.
Every item that you pay for will be logged, and the costs of any purchases that are not reasonable for the benefit you're receiving, [cigarettes, Sky TV, excessive alcohol, etc. etc. etc.] will be deducted from your next benefit payment.
Naturally, a pensioner can use their pension on whatever, really. but a dole-scrounger can't use theirs to pay for the huge telly and fifteen bottles of vodka a week. it also means that child benefit has to be spent on things suitable for children.
there'd be no issue of 'singling out' people on benefits, cos pretty much EVERYONE would have a card.
Of course, this involves a fair bit of watching what people are buying, so will naturally be shouted down. [even though the credit card companies already know what we're buying]. And relies heavily on card-use. meh, it wouldn't work in the real world, but in MY world.. ahahahaha... *daydreams*
*shrugs* just an idea.
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Seventh is somewhat subdued, Thu 8 Jan 2009, 0:48,
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Your so right.
We have lost our country to this scum and someone needs to take it back. I think a bit of vigilante action could sort this right out.
(runs off to load his pillow case with door knobs)
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lord turkey boy and the cleft of venus, Thu 8 Jan 2009, 4:55,
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