TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY:
i dont have any personal debt, nor does my partner, or any of our friends, this is because we are not all fucking numpties who think the objects we own reflect our status in life...
no one put a gun to your head and told you to take on personal debt....
(, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:15, Reply)
^ this
Also - how the hell is this attributable to the labour government?
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:26,
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personal debt at the end of the previous administration was
£300 billion. this is 5 times that figure. labours lax regulation of finance, and allowing debt companies to push debt. encouraging huge fuck off mortgages etc etc.
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Avast is still alive!!!!, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:30,
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"encouraging huge fuck off debt"
THAT YOU DIDNT HAVE TO TAKE:
"allowing debt companies to push debt"
How much debt are you in AVAST, and who is to blame except yourself?
lets just cut to the fucking chase shall we....
sometimes the only one to blame is yourself.
(, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:33, Reply)
i aint in fucking debt u moron, this is not about me ffs.
wow, when u aint got a coherent argument you resort to personal attacks? that is fucking lame.
there are people out there who aint bright, cos education has been on a 30 yr decline, and these people don't properly understand how this stuff works. is it ok for them to be conned/ripped off/led into debt by banks, companies etc etc? and who governs the regulatory climate in which this is done? the government.
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Avast is still alive!!!!, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:37,
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hook, line and thinker.
there are people out there who aint bright, cos education has been on a 30 yr decline, and these people don't properly understand how this stuff works. is it ok for them to be conned/ripped off/led into debt by banks, companies etc etc? and who governs the regulatory climate in which this is done? the government.
actually most of the people i'm talking about who weren't stupid enough to take on personal debt fall into the group you just described...
But your right, the poor and uneducated do need protecting from the evil nasty world, and by the look of it, your just the sort of person who would be perfect for that job... you could be like the modern day robin hood, guiding those poor feckless losers to the path of light.
or are you just posting links on message boards?
(, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:46, Reply)
i aint a tory mate ffs
after 17 years of education cuts to state schools and laws designed to help priviledge private schools i am hardly gonna vote for them. However labour have ran up a fucking massive debt, and used the odious PFI system to suck money off the poor to give to the rich. e.g: £11 billion of hospitals will cost $65 billion over the next 30 years
see: www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/aug/13/nhs-pfi-65-billion-bill-repayments
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Avast is still alive!!!!, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:35,
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Totaly agree
PFI is a travesty. You should join the Labour party, there are alot of members that would agree with you. Its only by getting involved that the majority progressives can stop the rightwing of the party getting control. I mean look how close it was between the Millibands, one side of the party vote for what they want the country to look like, the other half vote for what they think the fictional 'middle england' want the country to look like. The most unpopular policies of Labour were the right wing ones, yet we still get a Tory government who end up being worse. Something needs to change, and it starts inside the party as far as I'm concerned.
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Jorvic, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:08,
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we could all go down to our local city square and protest about it
but top gears on iplayer.
(, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:22, Reply)
you don't have to be a tory to criticise labour
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Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:36,
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I've paid off my mortgage
Don't owe a thing. What do you think of that, then? Eh?
Absolute bollocks. I'm so screwed I'm thinking of selling a kidney
(, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:33, Reply)
i'll buy it
will sell it on ebay as "used meat"
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Avast is still alive!!!!, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:38,
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How do you buy a house
without personal debt? I had a nice job (10 years or so), I got married and we took out a mortgage. Then my partner went to prison so to keep my home (why should I lose it? I had done nothing wrong) I had to pay all the bills where they had been previously shared. I took on two extra jobs, and just got by.
But then I got made redundant from my main job. The redundancy just carried me over until I managed to get another job, less money. Three years later: redundant. I got another job. 5 years later? Redundant. This time, finding work was even more difficult so I took what I could. I ended up a qualified areospace engineer working in a clothing warehouse... that is, until I was made redundant. Now I run a charity and the council have just announced a 30% cut in our grant.
What I'm getting at is although I have worked hard all my life and have never signed on or claimed a benefit, I am still up to my ears in debt. There wasn't really any other way to survive.
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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:32,
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Labour are in no way responsible at all for the state of the economy
no, not at all, definitely not.
At all.
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WormuIus, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 13:40,
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Good for you.
Aren't you so fucking perfect.
I hope your attitude is the same when you suddenly lose your job and can't get another that pays nearly as much and you discover that your income does not balance the books and your mortgage is now too large to pay but you cannot move as the housing prices have dropped.
Some people take on massivly large debt on cards for things they dont need, and they are idiots, but some just do what they need to to live and get screwed by circumstance.
(, Mon 14 Feb 2011, 14:58, Reply)