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1. Sodom & Gomorrah nothing to do with it
2. supersessionism
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post Perhaps a bit too abridged
I was more after, is he just justifying his choice of religion with his sexuality, and if so, does he and why?
I just can't get my head around people wanting to be a part of a religion that is so full of people telling them they are wrong.
It's like Stockholm Syndrome or something
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:17, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well because they believe in the message of Jesus I guess,
and love God as the creator of the Universe.

There are congregations that are not homophobic, it's ignorant individual Christians that are the problem, not Christianity itself.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post I can honestly say, I've never met a Christian that wasn't homophobic
they've always just said it's wrong, it's what they've been taught and believe.
But I won't judge them all on these cases.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:25, , Reply)
This is a normal post We need people to tell them that their beliefs are based on dodgy biblical interpretation,
bad scholarship, and ideas that are a lot more modern and a lot less traditional than they realise.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:28, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, and there's nothing devoutly religious people are better known for
than listening to people tell them what they believe is wrong and taking what they say on board.
 (I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post You have to start at the fringes and work your way inwards.

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Good luck with that, let us know how you get on.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post yeah it's difficult,
they typically accuse me of talking a load of bollocks and quoting ridiculous facts.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post It's like they know you.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:05, , Reply)
This is a normal post Actually I don't have any religious friends who aren't already tolerant,
except the Jehovah's Witnesses that come round, if they count, and I can scarcely make a dent on them.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:14, , Reply)
This is a normal post You need a gun.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post If everybody had a gun there'd be no Jehovah's Witnesses

(I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post If you had a gun there'd be no one full stop.

(I helped save b3ta! Dawn Of The Bread $$$$ E-THUG 4 LIFE - THAT'S HOW I SCROLL $$$$, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 14:40, , Reply)
This is a normal post hahahaha! actual lol.

(I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Mon 27 Aug 2012, 0:46, , Reply)
This is a normal post you can't have met very many then
Just off the top of my head I can count over 20 christians I know personally (either through work, hobbies or family connections) who are absolutely fine with it - and one who isn't

4 of those have invited myself and my boyfriend to their weddings and we had a *fabulous* time chatting to the grandparents!

I know 4 openly gay christians, one of whom trained as a priest. None of those have a problem with their church (so I guess you can add at least 3 congregations to the numbers)

I'm not a christian (I tend to describe myself as ignostic) but I really don't get this whole "OMG! The church is so evil and homophobic" because it just doesn't match up with my experiences.

Sure some churches are twats, but an awful lot of them aren't.

Edit: Anecdote not data, your mileage may vary etc etc etc
 (I helped save b3ta! LP, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 15:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Much like my arguments to friends from church that make generalisations about groups they see as "anti-Christian"
(I'm so glad to see your comment, because b3ta can get me down sometimes with the hate that some people post)

I'm sure there is a huge silent majority of atheists and agnostics who feel as deeply embarrassed to be categorised with twat-atheists as I am to be categorised with twat-christians (my beloved brothers and sisters, but boy do they vex me sorely sometimes). Just as there are likely muslims who get frustrated that the outsiders' perception of them as a group is so coloured by the actions of the jihadists. I couldn't say authoritatively on this though: I've not met many muslims as I live in a very anglo-saxon part of the UK.
 (Stonkwood Pipes made me do it, Mon 27 Aug 2012, 10:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Agree entirely
A church full of decent people will treat people decently. A church full of ignorant people will treat people ignorantly.

And as you know, I'm in the 19/20.
 (Smiley_Neil filling the interweb with crap, Mon 27 Aug 2012, 17:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post
3. verse in Romans 1 is about an excess of lust not the type of lust
4. dodgy translation from the Greek
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Sun 26 Aug 2012, 13:37, , Reply)