A British farmer talking about that BBC meat documentary...
As you might imagine he's not entirely on board with their conclusions.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 2 Dec 2019, 12:30,
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I'm vegan because I think animals are great, and I'm not prepared to exploit them in order to make my weekly shop easier.
All these cunts talking about going vegan or cutting down on red meat consumption in order to save the planet are fucking halfwits. Our number is up as a species the moment our crude oil reserves begin to run dry. Assuming we don't end up completely annihilating each other in a worldwide resource war (which, we will), we've become so utterly reliant on crude oil for just about every single conceivable aspect of our daily lives that we'd cease to function as a society once we no longer have unlimited access to the stuff.
By all means stop eating meat. But do it because you think animals are awesome, not because you have some misguided idea that you're somehow saving the world. That's just stupid.
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I'm not one of those cunts cutting down on meat to save the world.
I'm one of those awesome people who are continuing to eat it because it is delicious.
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Oh, boo hoo
The future of organised human civilization hangs in the balance, and the next few years are pivotal.
Get over it, you damn snowflake.
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You seem to assume I'm bothered that we're all fucked.
Far from it. Once we're all gone, the planet can get on with being a lovely place to inhabit for all the species we've made miserable through our continued expansion and consumption.
Humans are a horrible, parasitic organism. I welcome our demise. Until then, I'm going to carry on spending and living in relative luxury. I should be almost dead before things start to get really bad (hopefully).
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It's your life
If you take an honest look at the situation and decide that trying to save us isn't what you want to do with your time, then I personally think: fair play to you. That's everyone's own choice to make.
On this specific issue though you're probably going to get increasing push back as the people who decide in favor of our continue existence come to consider apathy and nihilism as a problem that's directly hurting the cause.
Honest question: have you considered still wishing the end upon us and all, but just doing it on a more personal, private level?
Second point: If you actually do care about animals, you'd be better off trying to control the outcome rather than wishing a vague end to us. If we vanished overnight, we'd stop accelerating through the current mass extinction (assuming we haven't already crossed a tipping point), but that is not likely.
We're probably going to stick around a while longer, and are on course for ~4 degrees atm, which is going to fuck up loads more ecosystems and their inhabitants than we strictly have to.
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If only
your empathy stretched to humans too.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Mon 2 Dec 2019, 14:27,
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I have the ability to feel empathy for humans on a singular level.
But as a species, we're a fucking disaster.
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I feel like that about animals.
There are individuals I like but when taken as a species, they are so pathetic you may as well eat them.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Tue 3 Dec 2019, 11:03,
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Out of curiosity, do you consider manure to be an animal product too?
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jonbob loves you, Mon 2 Dec 2019, 17:51,
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Mon 2 Dec 2019, 19:45,
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Animals may be awesome
but the domesticated varieties are only kept around because they're of use to us for meat, fibre or companionship, and the wild ones are only there because we haven't yet got around to eradicating them in order to use their land for growing soya beans and palm oil.
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Mostly to feed animals for meat, at approx 5% conversion efficiency.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Mon 2 Dec 2019, 23:07,
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See also: crossfitters, atheists, comediennes with nigerian parents
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