pots calling kettles....
My stepdaughter has just joined a facebook group called something like "Make people do community service to qualify for the dole rather than just getting it."
Now, putting aside for the moment the quite amazing idea that there is enough community service for everyone thats unemployed (even if you discount the ones who genuinely can't get a job rather than just being workshy)...
She is 18.
She left school in 2006, scraping together a few GCSE's despite the fact that she'd only gone there for about a third of the final year, so its not like she's thick or unqualified.
Since then she has had two attempts at further education, both lasting less than a month, and approximatly two weeks paid employment.
But when I accused her of joining a group she couldn't really justify joining, her reply was "but I was never claiming the dole, tyvm".
No, you expected your mum and me to buy you everything, to put meals in front of you, to help you tidy your room, to clean out your pets, god forbid you should find the time in your busy online lifestyle to actually go and sign on and give us some of the money when we're finding it difficult to get money together for bills.

Now she's at college, living in most of the week, but visiting here or her boyfriends at the weekend with the occassional trip to her dad or grandma if she's skint !!
(paof2 Nude might not be rude, but rude could be nude..., Wed 22 Oct 2008, 12:48, 9 replies)

TYVM?

( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 22 Oct 2008, 12:53, closed)

I'm guessing
at Thank You Very Much.
(ThomsonsPier consumes, Wed 22 Oct 2008, 12:56, closed)

yes ThomsonsPier is correct
tyvm = Thank You Very Much....typed in a sarcastic accent
(paof2 Nude might not be rude, but rude could be nude..., Wed 22 Oct 2008, 13:07, closed)

Thank you.....
saved me having to ask!
(Pork2311, Wed 22 Oct 2008, 13:36, closed)

There's PLENTY of community service for the unemployed to do!
Removing grafitti
Sweeping the streets
Picking up litter from beaches

etc...
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Wed 22 Oct 2008, 13:15, closed)

Community service?
Yes, I can see your point BUT:

Whilst you could take John Doe out of the dole queue and he could use a cloth and water to clean chalk off a floor, whats he going to do with a wall covered with spray paint? You take him off to a council depot, sit him through a session on how to use chemical cleaners, provide him with the goodies to use, and send him back.
Thats cost you (the taxpayer) because you've paid for his training andequipment.

Oh, hold on...

This isn't one person here, its hundreds and thousands. (Thats people, not sprinkles...)

Sweeping the streets? Same problem.

Want the beaches cleaned? Yes, you can provide plastic bags and grippers, and then have a bin lorry there at the end of the day.

Seven days a week?

And since there are so many workshy people out there who have so many benefits that they can claim are essentials to their life, do you honestly think that everyone on the dole is going to go and do 5 days a week for basically nothing?

People who want to do voluntary work are already doing it, working in charity shops, helping 'meals on wheels', and helping people on a personal basis rather than by official arrangement.

Make it harder to exist by benefits alone, bring back the idea of 'work for a lifestyle' rather than the idea of 'if I sit here I can get everything from the government'.

I know people on 40 fags a day (£10) every day, big plasma tv's, the latest in clothes, trainers not from discount stores, mp4 players for each of the kids, games consoles, etc, all paid for by workers like me struggling to pay bills.

Yes, there's people out there on the breadline too, and I feel pity for them. But i do wonder what the others know that they don't.
(paof2 Nude might not be rude, but rude could be nude..., Wed 22 Oct 2008, 21:02, closed)

this could have fit into
last weeks QOTW
(twocoats, Wed 22 Oct 2008, 14:17, closed)

Made my day
To know that there is at least one yoof out there who is thinking about how to solve the problem of scrounging scum.

What do you mean not enough work?
Aside from cleaning up our urban, rural and coastal areas, they could be:
Helping the elderly by doing their housework, gardening, shopping.
Helping to run youth clubs, sports facilities, charity shops.
Sorting rubbish into cans, bottles, plastic as it comes out of the bin lorry.
And those rocks won't break themselves.
( stopmeandslapme Cometh the hour, cometh your mum, Wed 22 Oct 2008, 14:25, closed)

Here's a nice picture of "paof2"

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