from The Online Etymology Dictionary ...

kirk : c.1200, northern England and Scot. dial. form of church, from O.N. kirkja "church," from O.E. cirice (see church).

LINK
www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=kirk&searchmode=none

circus : c.1380, from L. circus "ring," applied by Romans to circular arenas for performances and contests (esp. the Circus Maximus), from or akin to Gk. kirkos "a circle," from PIE *kirk- from base *(s)ker- "to turn, bend." First attested use for "traveling show" is 1791.

CHURCH: FORMS: (a) cirice, cyrice, chiriche, churiche, chereche, (b) CIRCE, cyrce, chyrce, cirke, etc., etc.,
The ulterior derivation has been keenly disputed. The L. circus, and a Gothic word kélikn 'tower, upper chamber' (app. originally Gaulish) have both been proposed (the latter suggested by the Alemannic chilihha), but are set aside as untenable; and there is now a general agreement among scholars in referring it to the Greek word, properly kurion adj. 'of the Lord, dominicum, dominical' (f. Kurios lord), which occurs, from the 3rd century at least, used substantively (sc. doma, or the like) = 'house of the Lord', as a name of the Christian house of worship. Of this the earliest cited instances are in the Apostolical Constitutions (II. 59), a 300, the edict of Maximinus (303-13), cited by Eusebius (Eccl. Hist. ix. 10) a 324, the Councils of Ancyra 314 (Canon 15), Neo-Caesarea 314-23 (Can. 5), and Laodicea (Can. 28). Thenceforward it appears to have been in fairly common use in the East: e.g., Constantine named several churches built by him Kuriaka (Eusebius De Laud. Const. xvii)," Oxford English Dictionary

also...twelve tribes of Israel (compare to 4 Cherubim images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&ei=fgLKSe__O8eQjAf3vbjNAw&resnum=1&q=cherubim&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)

incidentally where we also get 'NEWS' from (north, east, west and south)
(The Goat www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com, Wed 25 Mar 2009, 9:18, 1 reply)

NEWS
Yes. That's why the French for "news" is neso, and the Russian is svyz.


In turn, "north" is an acronym for "No One Really Trowels Here"; trowels are used by builders. Builders are a bit like masons. Therefore it's the Freemasons who invented the compass, and anyone who uses a map is perpetuating their control of the world. The word "Noone" indicates the exclusivity of the set up.

"Set up" is an interesting phrase. Apart from being obviously Masonic (too!), it is a code for "Someone Eats Truly Unappetising Pasta". Noone knows what this means. It's obviously a secret kept from us by the, er, Masons...

Except, of course, that this is nonsense.

And your second stab at etymology - even allowing that the etymological fallacy isn't a fallacy - flies in the face of your first.


Right. I'm not going to rise to this any more. You're wrong, and I have better things to do.

Incidentally - if you're going to Riverghost's London bash, Archie and I would love to meet you...
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 25 Mar 2009, 10:24, closed)

from teh guy
who dismisses John Harris' lecture at the recent Lawful Rebellion Conference on statute law and common law on the basis that 'he regards people who travel to Stoke as idiots"

bravo

there's no doubt you're an intelligent bloke but supreme egotistical arrogance can be the most debilitating form of ignorance sometimes

seriously, bravo
(The Goat www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com, Wed 25 Mar 2009, 10:30, closed)

*must not take bait... must not take bait... mu.... ach, fuck it.*
I dismissed the Harris lecture because it made no sense, and, after a bit of googling, it seems to have been given at a conference sponsored by organisations with which I disagree - you could practically smell the UKIP-and-then-some influence.

The Stoke jibe was just that: a jibe. Really. I happen to detest the place with a passion, and I'll take any opportunity I can to bad-mouth it in whatever way I can.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 25 Mar 2009, 10:43, closed)

no, you are wrong
It’s not the Masons, any fool knows that, it's the Illuminati that actually rule the world and the Queen is a third world coke dealer.
(MichaelS wasn't picked again, Wed 25 Mar 2009, 10:47, closed)