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Who were your heroes or villains of the last year, and why? Who inspired you? Who had you kicking the cat across the room? They don't have to be well known, you might even want to laud the achievements of your binman. (Note that "Nick Clegg nuff said" answers puts you straight onto our naughty list)

(, Thu 29 Dec 2011, 15:05)
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Occupiers
Villains: Anyone who thinks setting up a camp somewhere is going to solve anything.

I drunkenly started talking to the Nottingham bunch recently with a friend, mentioned I was a journo and was invited inside after our arguments died down.
Only 1% of the so-called 99% actually believed they were fighting for something. The rest were the homeless of the city who are just enjoying a moderately safe place to camp and get pissed.
Very naive bunch of people.
All use the same alleyway in the city centre as a toilet which to me is disgusting and a massive health risk.
Massive hypocrites.
Eyesore.
Smelly.

Sure I'll get quite a bit of hate from writing this, but these are my views. I didn't like them in the first place, now I've actually talked to them I dislike them even more.
(, Thu 29 Dec 2011, 21:39, 11 replies)
Claim that most of them were black, you'll get a lot more agreement then.

(, Thu 29 Dec 2011, 21:44, closed)
They were.
It wasn't a race thing though.
(, Thu 29 Dec 2011, 21:46, closed)
In which case,
I predict the I'm-all-right-Jack London lot will be bang alongside your views, and the b3ta chapter of the Guardian's seraphim will dial the condescension right up.
(, Thu 29 Dec 2011, 22:46, closed)
You talk
funny.
(, Fri 30 Dec 2011, 11:15, closed)
Sitting back and sneering is DEFINITELY the way to change stuff.

(, Thu 29 Dec 2011, 22:32, closed)
Well it's working for QOTW

so it must be true.

Also see "Simon Cowell"
(, Thu 29 Dec 2011, 23:32, closed)

thats not sneering
(, Fri 30 Dec 2011, 5:19, closed)
Bit of a contradiction there
If you say most of them are just homeless and don't believe they're fighting for anything, then you can't also call them naive.

It's like saying "bloody immigrants, stealing our jobs and lounging around on the dole."
(, Fri 30 Dec 2011, 5:37, closed)
"Only 1% of the so-called 99% actually believed they were fighting for something. The rest were the homeless of the city who are"
Surveyed these protestors did you, or did you pick this figure out of thin air?
(, Fri 30 Dec 2011, 9:02, closed)
Even if it's an exaggeration, it has enough truth
in it to make it worth saying.

A good number of any bunch of protesters are not there because they believe in their cause. Or any cause, in fact.

A lot of them have nothing better to do, some just like causing trouble and the rest are naive and are just doing what the few genuine protesters tell them to do.

Might not be 99%, but I reckon it's not much less than 95%, on a good day.
(, Fri 30 Dec 2011, 9:07, closed)
St Pauls lot are no better.
The so-called 99% number is just something they pulled out of their arses anyhow. Could have been 98% or 51%. More likely 1% though. Looking at the Occupy website there aren't any well thought out arguments, just slogans really.

It's quite amusing to know that their "leader" left the camp a month or so ago, and was quoted as saying that all the donations they'd been given had mysteriously disappeared... Seems like they can't control money any better than anyone else.
(, Wed 4 Jan 2012, 8:49, closed)

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