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Firstly, well, no. You obviously have some charming mates
And secondly, even if there is the odd bit of "banter" in a pub, that's not at work, is it? Sky can't be seen to tolerate that in a work environment.
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:18, 1 reply, 15 years ago)
why not?

(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:19, Reply)
Well, glossing over the morality of discrimination as that doesn't seem to bother you,
it's illegal under EU and UK employment law.
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:26, Reply)
yep and we all adhere to the law rigidly don't we.

(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:30, Reply)
A fine argument
except you can't blithely ignore international law when you're broadcasting those breaches across the world.
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, Reply)
when you've been caught on tape and camera
it's pretty fucking hard not to, no?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, Reply)
Reading the story on the Guardian website
And a number of people on there have mentioned daytime magazine show 'Loose Women' as a show that seems to thrive on sexism. (I've not seen Loose Women, but I understand the premise of the the show is a gaggle of women whinging about men).

Is that acceptable, but a private conversation isn't?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:37, Reply)
Nobody could defend Loose Women.

(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:41, Reply)
But should the presenters all be joining Andy Gray at JobClub?
Or are the comments made on that, acceptable as it is within the context of the show?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:42, Reply)
Personally, I think they should.
I think it's a vile programme mainly because of this. The fact that TV bosses at a different channel haven't sacked them but Grey has been sacked doesn't mean he shouldn't have been.
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:45, Reply)
no, it's not acceptable.
but it is more likely to be accepted because institutional sexism on the part of women towards men is not and has never been a problem in society, but vice versa is.
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:52, Reply)
And that's ok is it?
or is the reason it's acceptable because men understand it means fuck all and don't go mental about it.
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:59, Reply)
Did you seriously just say that?
Like, really?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:06, Reply)
He was caught ON CAMERA, TWICE.
If you got caught on camera stealing something twice, would you turn around and say "Oh, it's OK. Everyone does it."?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:34, Reply)
barry would!
But in all seriousness, no of course not. But in this particular case I think the punishment is extreme. Ideally sexism and racism and most other ism's wouldn't exist but they do and not every case is black and white (no pun intended). I am not trying to upset or annoy anyone, nor am I condoning what Andy Gray did. In my opinion he has been rashly dismissed and it probably warrants a suspension, then a review following an investigation.
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:40, Reply)
jism?

(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:41, Reply)
especially jism!
do you get what I mean or am I talking double dutch?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:42, Reply)
You might have a point if he'd done it once
But the fact that he's done it repeatedly (in the space of a month!) shows he doesn't think it's wrong and won't change. Do you think no one had a quiet word with him about the December thing?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:43, Reply)
I doubt it pal I really do.

(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:46, Reply)
Look. The man's an unprofessional, sexist pig. Why should he be allowed to keep his job?
Let's argue it that way, shall we?
(, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:51, Reply)

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