Right, seeing as that ended up just being silly.
It's 'Ask Monters' time.

Need advice with which political system to go with? Or a tricky fashion decision? Perhaps you need help finding a life partner? Perhaps you just need a punch in the fucking face.

I can and will help with all your woes.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 15:59, 314 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Second choice b3ta girl after lusty?

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:01, Reply)

Hahah fuck off am I answering that.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:02, Reply)

Ok then
how about if you decided to flounce off the board how many people could you take down with you, I think I could probably take 5 or 6.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:05, Reply)

by take down
do you mean ruin livelihood?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:07, Reply)

That or embarass them off b3ta.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:07, Reply)

*makes mental note not to piss of Chompy*
not too much anyway
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:08, Reply)

noone who posts here has any shame anyway

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:10, Reply)

You'd be surprised

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:10, Reply)

They said that about bert.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:13, Reply)

Something tells me.....

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:14, Reply)

hahaha

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:16, Reply)

Too late
you're on the list.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:10, Reply)

arse

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:14, Reply)

NAMES
GIVE ME THE NAMES
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:10, Reply)

i thought you of all people
were too smart to rise to this sort of thing.

i owe you a gaz too, don't i? bloomin' work getting in the way. sorry.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:12, Reply)

It's not something that's going to be given up, but heh it's worth a shot.
The cruel blow that your internet friend actually just really hates you and is willing to break gaz sanctity to make an arsehole of you, it's brilliant.
Yer, hit me up whenevs
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:19, Reply)

it would be an amazing way to fuck off
(i) lusty - because you've looked at someone else; (ii) whomever you picked for being labelled "second best"; (iii) every girl that you didn't pick. what a bananaskin.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:05, Reply)

It would have to be my last post ever.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:06, Reply)

ooh thanks for the gaz
you're too kind, and i don't mind being "second best" at all, really.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:09, Reply)

hahahaha

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:11, Reply)

You have an easy out of that question
Amberl because lusty loves her, probably more than you.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:11, Reply)

Lusty loves TGB more than she loves Monty.
FACT.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:13, Reply)

Why can't we all just be happy together :(?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:21, Reply)

Haha, are you going to try and get them to adopt you, too?
I was quite game for that matryoshka idea myself.
(berk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:46, Reply)

NO one loves TGB more than anything.
That is retarded.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:33, Reply)

Yeah it's like being asked
who would you shag if they're single. Never answer because it's a recipe for disaster
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:06, Reply)

And never ever suggest a sibling.
Theirs that is. Not your own, obviously.
*does fingers/eyes thing*
I'm watching you Bert.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:22, Reply)

Does she do that thing where you suck on her toung and she does the same thing to your *whistle*, and what does it mean if you start putting her finger up your nose?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:27, Reply)

to you too?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, Reply)

Topping?
Edit :(
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:01, Reply)

Peanut butter.
Or blueberry jam.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:03, Reply)

I think I left something at yours
I've checked my bags but can't find it. I'll have another look though.
It's ok, I've found it.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:06, Reply)

you beauty

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:07, Reply)

I'm not surprised you thought you'd lost your hand.
You spent most of the night with it rammed up Crow's shitter, after all.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:08, Reply)

He has rearward-facing barbs in his colon

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:12, Reply)

look familiar?

(Zoz prayed for twink on, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:16, Reply)

*has flashbacks*
*Gulf War syndromes*
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:18, Reply)

Vintage clothing or new?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:07, Reply)

both
clearly
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:08, Reply)

New (for me)
People in vintage-land seldom seemed to be as big as me.

For women, a nice vintage piece often wins, though.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:11, Reply)

I have a formal black tie function to attend.
Do you favour the dinner suit or the tuxedo?

I myself favour the dinner suit, the tuxedo makes me think of fat Mexicans.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:08, Reply)

both wrong
formal is white tie
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:09, Reply)

wrong
white tie is only now used for court functions and one or two of the Oxford/Cambridge balls

Edit: Kroney are you American?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:09, Reply)

wrong
I've seen it outside those events
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:10, Reply)

Occasional places do it I guess
but it's massively expensive even to rent and very expensive to buy, so I would hazard that it wasn't a proper white-tie event

Edit: by court occasions I mean all that stuff they get up to with coming out occasions, state dinners etc.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:14, Reply)

just because people don't do it
doesn't mean it isn't correct

most people can't fucking drive properly, doesn't mean that they are changing the highway code. and this subject is far more important
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:17, Reply)

*shrugs*
I've been to quite a lot of very formal events and the only time I've ever seen white tie requested is at my college ball. Just because someone is wearing a white bowtie doesn't mean they're dressed in white tie.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:19, Reply)

I am aware that it doesn't just refer to the tie
I'm mainly being stubborn here, but if you don't want it called a tuxedo then you can't argue with me.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:23, Reply)

I don't understand
what we're arguing about :(

White tie is not a tuxedo. You said a formal event was white-tie which it isn't. Formal = black tie in common parlance.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:25, Reply)

I was saying that black tie wasn't formal when these things were more common
but now is, as you say, in common parlance.

Likewise, a tuxedo is now synonymous with black tie (correctness is irrelevant)

if you say no to tuxedo, then really you should say no to black tie being formal.

you with me?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:28, Reply)

Nope
because black tie is not synonomous with a tuxedo. It really isn't.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:31, Reply)

not with you or I
but it would be with many people. Because people are stupid.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:35, Reply)

I think I'll stick to my belief on this one
tuxedos are wrong. Plus we shouldn't argue over the formal thing. Your invitation generally requests black tie or white tie as required, and sometimes formal can simply mean suit for men, cocktail dress for women. Smart/casual is the real fucker
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:39, Reply)

that is very true
we have reached an accord
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:40, Reply)

piece of piss for men.
means "wear a jacket and shoes"

Jeans are fine for smart/casual as long as coupled with a shirt.

Can't women just wear anything then?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:45, Reply)

I'm afraid you are wrong, sir, for once.
Formal covers a multitude of sins. The instruction formal merely dictates that gentlemen must wear a suit and tie. Black tie is then the next stage, requiring a dinner suit and bow tie rather than, say, a lounge suit. Technically black tie doesn't dictate the colour of the tie, but only a terrible prole would wear a coloured or patterned bow tie. White tie is the highest of the high and means, well, a white tie and a jacket with tails, and as Ambrel pointed out, is really restricted to ambassadorial functions and universities with ideas above their station.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:43, Reply)

I beg your pardon?
How dare you?
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:11, Reply)

then please don't call it a tuxedo :(

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:12, Reply)

Stricly speaking
You are correct in that a tuxedo is merely a form of dinner suit, but it is stylistically different enough and common enough to be mentioned as a separate set of clothing for the purposes of my question.

All forms of black tie are usually a ball-ache, anyway. Most people there aren't going to be living up to the occasion.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:24, Reply)

WHAT A BORING FUCKING CONVERSATION

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

You'd fit right in with the majority of the people there

( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:31, Reply)

Of course it is.
I naturally meant "semi-formal"
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:10, Reply)

Then dinner suit.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:13, Reply)

*taste fives*

( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:14, Reply)

Formal kilt
Can't go wrong.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:18, Reply)

Trainers.
I'm thinking about a change from the usual 'Adid-shell-toes' what does Monty say will be in fashion in the near future?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:08, Reply)

Nike Dunks.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:12, Reply)

I'm 36 not 13.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:14, Reply)

Puma Clydes.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:17, Reply)

Better.
I've not had a pair of Puma trainers in years.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:20, Reply)

'Lemmy' guess, velvet loons, afghan coat and a Hawkwind t-shirt?

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:12, Reply)

Name some music that you think I really should hear.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:11, Reply)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyCSGWVpOuE
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:16, Reply)

I prefer the Krankie Knuckles 'Detroit mix' but yes it's classic.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:19, Reply)

Hahahah 10/10

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:27, Reply)

I'm interested in hair extensions.

( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:12, Reply)

I'm not.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:17, Reply)

you said you'd offer advice on a "a tricky fashion decision"
I'm tired of my short ugly hair and want longer hair without having to wait 3 years.
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:26, Reply)

Don't do it - they almost invariably look shit.
Buy a hat.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

I look horrible in hats.
UGH.
( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

Given that I probably should make a decision soon
What should my next career move be?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:14, Reply)

get a proper job!

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:16, Reply)

Roadie for Napalm Death

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:16, Reply)

I've met them. Thoroughly nice blokes.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:24, Reply)

You never cease to amaze me.
Wait a minute - were you with your brother?
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:26, Reply)

Nope
But here is me looking a complete twat with Shane Embury

In my defence, I'd nearly been knocked out about 5 minutes before this pic
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:31, Reply)

Brilliant.
Love the Gary Neville 'tache.
(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:33, Reply)

Not my best look, I agree
But I'd had one hell of a day, fucking superb lineup.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:35, Reply)

hit man

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:18, Reply)

london baby

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:19, Reply)

I am reliably informed that London has enough barmaids.

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:20, Reply)

+ they're all Australian.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:23, Reply)

Speed dealer.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:20, Reply)

Fine, but when my parents ask me why, I'm showing them this post.

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:21, Reply)

No problem - I'm already dealing barbs to your dad anyway.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:25, Reply)

An' 'e loves it!

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:28, Reply)

Crossbow bolt-proof prostitute?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:21, Reply)

I'm thinking about going back to vegetarianism.
Quite seriously. thoughts?
(Poppet some assembly required., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:18, Reply)

For moral, or taste reasons?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:20, Reply)

taste mainly. I really don't care about animals getting killed to feed us, it's been happening for millenia.

(Poppet some assembly required., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:26, Reply)

If you don't like the taste of ANY meat
Then fair enough, but don't feel like you have to limit yourself by the title 'vegetarian'.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:50, Reply)

don't do it
for the love of god. Why would you?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:20, Reply)

cos I feel better?
I dunno, eating a lot of meat seams to make me feel unwell. Queasy-ish.
Like, I enjoy the taste of chicken and pork when cooked in a particular way. But otherwise I'm just as happy without them.
(Poppet some assembly required., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:24, Reply)

you need properly educating on the joys of meat

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:26, Reply)

don't get me wrong, I really like a slow cooked lamb tagine, but I can't eat a lot of it without feeling ill.

(Poppet some assembly required., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

Fnarr

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

Smooth line dude.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

You heartless bastard,
I thought I was the only one who you promised that to!
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:35, Reply)

there's plenty to go around ;-)

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:39, Reply)

The queasiness is probably just your digestive system
If you've been vegetarian for a while, your guts won't be used to dealing with the different balance of proteins and fats you find in meat. If you keep at it, your system will adjust. Though that does depend on you liking the taste enough to make it worthwhile persisting.
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:09, Reply)

Don't be fucking stupid.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:21, Reply)

Why?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:21, Reply)

Ditto.
With occasional lapses.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:25, Reply)

You can think again if you're expecting 'funny food' at home, dear.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:42, Reply)

I'll eat what you put on the table, Daddy.
EDIT: my god that sounds creepy.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:47, Reply)

shall I have my wedding here in the UK
or somewhere foreign?
(DeeDee, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:19, Reply)

Here.
Foreign countries are full to the brim with Darkies, Johnny Slant-eyes, Woggoes, Nips, Chinks and nig-nogs. And Frenchies.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:24, Reply)

Just like London eh readers.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:28, Reply)

POTD

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

half the wedding party will be "darkies", wherever it happens
I'm marrying one of them!
(DeeDee, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

That shut up the racist fuckers.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:34, Reply)

but they're just so good in bed

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:35, Reply)

ha!

(DeeDee, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:40, Reply)

Good Lord are you sure about this?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:36, Reply)

Absolutely

(DeeDee, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:38, Reply)

Fake your own death.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:43, Reply)

well, it worked out so well last time I did it...
got me out of doing that show as well...
(DeeDee, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:47, Reply)

Innit.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:07, Reply)

I just bought a 24" monitor
Should I be smug or angry at myself for spending money I should be saving?
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:25, Reply)

fucking smug

( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:28, Reply)

angry
I suggest you flagellate yourself
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

Did you need a new monitor?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:29, Reply)

erm....yes?
My old one is 7 years old. I think it was time for an upgrade
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:47, Reply)

Oooh.
New Pawn Stars in on!

I saw two episodes on The History Channel last night that I hadn't previously seen.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:11, Reply)

Enjoy your purchase.
You've bought it now - being annoyed with yourself is entirely pointless.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:32, Reply)

smug
unless you spending money means you can't come to the bash. In which case you should be angry and then go and return it
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:33, Reply)

Be smug
And enjoy 24" of joy!
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:53, Reply)

Any tips on how to keep 'the Dalek boy' away from me at playtime?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:31, Reply)

Are you picking on a crippled child?

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:32, Reply)

Hahah

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:35, Reply)

Kick his fucking crutch in.

(Tugnut Ex of this parish, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:35, Reply)

No, just one kid will not leave me alone at break and he just talks about Daleks
it's weird.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:35, Reply)

Just make up loads of facts about Dr Who until he gets nerd rage.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:37, Reply)

he is 5, he undoubtedly knows much more about Dr Who than me and will call shenanigans.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:40, Reply)

Yeah but he should keep correcting you.
Keep making more stuff up until he hits you and then get him expelled.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:44, Reply)

I think I might take advice from someone whose expertise
aren't limited to rape, world of warcraft and selling paperclips.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:48, Reply)

You do that Mr can't handle a fucking five year old.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:51, Reply)

Did you sell lots of stationery today? will you celebrate by killing goblins with your level 14 rapemastergeneral?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:54, Reply)

Is that because you look like Davros?
Oh look, it's Bob trying to escape the mong-boy...



( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:37, Reply)

I wish I was that thin!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:40, Reply)

What?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:32, Reply)

Take a knife to his face, leave a little Scar-o.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:33, Reply)

EXFOLIATE! EXFOLIATE!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:34, Reply)

Fuck him so hard up the arse he doesn't sit down for a month.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:34, Reply)

I'll suggest that to my mentor tomorrow.
Should go down well, better than him anyway.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:37, Reply)

haha

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:43, Reply)

Go on and on about how Peter Davison was the best Doctor
until he flips out and tries to hurt you. Then you can have him kicked out.

You're welcome.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:40, Reply)

Go upstairs.

(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:57, Reply)

Fourth one, plz.
In a form of dramatic irony.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:33, Reply)

lawl

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:43, Reply)

Andy Gray has been sacked after 'new evidence of unacceptable and offensive behaviour' has come to light.
What form do you think this will take?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:43, Reply)

Him basically being a twat
I bet he refused to apologise or something prickish like that.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:45, Reply)

All they have said so far is that it happened in December.
However, it also just so happens that he is in the process of suing NOTW over the phonetapping thing.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:46, Reply)

no he rang her to apologise.
I don't think it's a big deal at all and this new evidence must be bad to warrant a sacking. It's a non story really.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:46, Reply)

I don't think it's a non-story
It's a fucking horrible thing to do.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:48, Reply)

Plus Grey is shit so I'm all for him going for whatever reason.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:50, Reply)

I don't agree, Man at work is sexist shocker!
What's the story there?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:50, Reply)

So you're saying that because people are sexist all the time it's OK?

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:51, Reply)

No I'm saying it's not worthy of being in the news and until this new evidence comes to ligjht
it's no reason to sack a bloke. Women are just as sexist as men but because we're funnier than you, you lot tend to get upset.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:53, Reply)

You really are a twat
please don't try to defend my gender with this crap.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:55, Reply)

your gender? I'm not defending he-shes!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:58, Reply)

This attempt to get a picture of my cock
is below sexface level.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:01, Reply)

I would put out my eyes with pungi sticks before looking at that microwaved pepperami you call a penis.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:02, Reply)

hahaha

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:55, Reply)

It's as worthy, if not more so
Than half the other crap that gets reported. I have no sympathy for the guy, in fact I fucking LOVE that he got sacked for it.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:56, Reply)

I'm the same
But I think he's a cunt, so I'm a bit biased.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:58, Reply)

Who, Turdy Pires?
*screenshots and sends to The Media*
*Awaits "Emo Tranny Suspended from Internet for Insulting Mentally Handicapped Food Aficionado" headlines.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:04, Reply)

I disagree, it should have been in the news.
The fact that we have evidence that even the so-called professionals at a football match are unable to accept someone who is clearly capable of their job based purely on their gender means that we can move forward and start making changes to rectify the situation. You can't just ignore a problem 'because everyone does it'.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:57, Reply)

Course you can, that's how shit gets done.
That's where you birds fall down, worrying all the time. Man up, get on with it and worry about yourself before getting all menstrual and agitated.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:00, Reply)

Please tell me you are actively trying to wind her up
rather than genuinely believing the arse-gravy you are coming out with?
(berk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:02, Reply)

Of course he is.
Fortunately, I've dealt with enough 'OMG! Let's try wind the feminist up!' trolls to ignore this half-arsed shite.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:05, Reply)

No I'm deadly serious.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:06, Reply)

Yeah, you're fucking hilarious.
Anyway. I know what he did to get fired now. See below.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:03, Reply)

Just read it, I would need to see it and the tone, mannerisms etc before making a judgement call.
No doubt he is a twat but he was good at his job.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:08, Reply)

I put the video on it now

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:09, Reply)

fucking hell it's not that bad. No worse than most old men anyway!
I'm not excusing it but I maintain firing him is an over reaction.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:12, Reply)

That it's winding you and so many others up is making me grin from ear to ear
This is the best thing to happen to football since England got slaughtered in the last world cup, then failed to beat Russia and Bumfuck Nowhere to get the next world cup hostings.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:16, Reply)

I'm not wound up, what would make you think I was?
I don't really care that much but I don't think the punishment fits the crime.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:20, Reply)

well, I thought the blatant wind-up was funny

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:05, Reply)

Shut up and put the tea on, eh love?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:56, Reply)

All sexism is abhorrent
Especially those Diet Coke adverts.
The Yorkie ones can stay.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:54, Reply)

I get fucked off at the McCoys one where the guy answers the question about ballet right in the pub, and gets kicked out.
It's well fucking known general knowledge!

EDIT: Also, you forgot Sheila's Wheels.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:57, Reply)

Shut up DF.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:00, Reply)

If it was something really obscure, then fine.
But it's general knowledge, and if you can't guess it when it's in front of you, you're clearly a bit retarded.

Also, went out with a dancer for a year
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:02, Reply)

What, be a bit of a sexist arsehole?
No, it's not. But to be fired for it? Those remarks were made in private, they were never intended to be heard by or hurt those being discussed.
(berk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:54, Reply)

The stuff about the lino isn't that bad and Karen Brady is a cunt.
Grey has been consistently good at his job so what if he is a dick? It's not his fault they weren't taken off air. Have you never walked out of earshot of someone and called them a cunt? In essence it's the same.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I don't know what he said, nor do I care
What I read is "Rich twat makes sexist comment while at work, gets found out and reprimanded. Is later sacked for something similar, apparently".
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:02, Reply)

he hasn't been sacked for the comments.
Apparently something happened in Dec which has led to his sacking and the sexism just confirmed it I believe. I don't care that he's rich or that he is a twat. He did something most other men do and is being nailed because some tech goon fucked his job up. It's a bit of a strong reaction, however I reserve the right to change my mind depending on what this new evidence is.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:04, Reply)

Sexual Harassment, or some shit like that.
Either way, long as I don't have to hear the complete prick anymore, it's fine by me.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:07, Reply)

he will be on ESPN by February.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:08, Reply)

No decent pubs near me get ESPN anymore, they get foreign channels instead. Means I don't have to hear him either.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:10, Reply)

The majority of my male friends wouldn't dream of making comments like what he's alleged to have said
So from this sample, no, 'most other men' would not do that.
Mostly I like this news because it results in a Rich Football Cunt being fired.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:10, Reply)

Well you must be friends with paragons of virtue (or dull cunts) cause you put any group of men
together (bar monks, and gays) and sexism will most likely happen. I'm not saying it's right but ffs it's not cancer or aids or anything just chill out and have a word.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:15, Reply)

Firstly, well, no. You obviously have some charming mates
And secondly, even if there is the odd bit of "banter" in a pub, that's not at work, is it? Sky can't be seen to tolerate that in a work environment.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:18, Reply)

why not?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:19, Reply)

Well, glossing over the morality of discrimination as that doesn't seem to bother you,
it's illegal under EU and UK employment law.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:26, Reply)

yep and we all adhere to the law rigidly don't we.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:30, Reply)

A fine argument
except you can't blithely ignore international law when you're broadcasting those breaches across the world.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, Reply)

when you've been caught on tape and camera
it's pretty fucking hard not to, no?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:33, Reply)

Reading the story on the Guardian website
And a number of people on there have mentioned daytime magazine show 'Loose Women' as a show that seems to thrive on sexism. (I've not seen Loose Women, but I understand the premise of the the show is a gaggle of women whinging about men).

Is that acceptable, but a private conversation isn't?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:37, Reply)

Nobody could defend Loose Women.

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:41, Reply)

But should the presenters all be joining Andy Gray at JobClub?
Or are the comments made on that, acceptable as it is within the context of the show?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:42, Reply)

Personally, I think they should.
I think it's a vile programme mainly because of this. The fact that TV bosses at a different channel haven't sacked them but Grey has been sacked doesn't mean he shouldn't have been.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:45, Reply)

no, it's not acceptable.
but it is more likely to be accepted because institutional sexism on the part of women towards men is not and has never been a problem in society, but vice versa is.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:52, Reply)

And that's ok is it?
or is the reason it's acceptable because men understand it means fuck all and don't go mental about it.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:59, Reply)

Did you seriously just say that?
Like, really?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:06, Reply)

He was caught ON CAMERA, TWICE.
If you got caught on camera stealing something twice, would you turn around and say "Oh, it's OK. Everyone does it."?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:34, Reply)

barry would!
But in all seriousness, no of course not. But in this particular case I think the punishment is extreme. Ideally sexism and racism and most other ism's wouldn't exist but they do and not every case is black and white (no pun intended). I am not trying to upset or annoy anyone, nor am I condoning what Andy Gray did. In my opinion he has been rashly dismissed and it probably warrants a suspension, then a review following an investigation.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:40, Reply)

jism?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:41, Reply)

especially jism!
do you get what I mean or am I talking double dutch?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:42, Reply)

You might have a point if he'd done it once
But the fact that he's done it repeatedly (in the space of a month!) shows he doesn't think it's wrong and won't change. Do you think no one had a quiet word with him about the December thing?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:43, Reply)

I doubt it pal I really do.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:46, Reply)

Look. The man's an unprofessional, sexist pig. Why should he be allowed to keep his job?
Let's argue it that way, shall we?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:51, Reply)

Complete bullshit
Sure, a couple of my friends might make the odd comment that's a little sexist, but most of my friends aren't sexist.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:19, Reply)

again I doubt it, but we don't know each others friend and speculation will never end well.
I trust you understood the point I was trying to make.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:22, Reply)

I'm convinced you must be trolling.

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:24, Reply)

I'm calling bullshit on that
Not everyone's as fucking backwards as your mates.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:19, Reply)

I refer you to my reply to Labs above.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:23, Reply)

And I refer you to my response to you below

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:24, Reply)

Firstly, most other men don't do that.
Secondly, that's a disciplinary offence in ANY job. Anyone working in that high profile a public role has, and rightly should have, a "no strike" rule on shit like this.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:14, Reply)

So in a society where things like twitter and facebook and the media are aiming at bringing
celebrities to a more human level and encourage interaction we turn on a bloke who makes sexist comments, and because he is on telly he must be fired? Bollocks mate. He is a lad and sportsman of course he is going to be a sexist twat, he's probably racist too but he shouldn't lose his job over it. The media attention is punishment enough, people now know he is a twunt.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:19, Reply)

So it'd be ok for him to be racist too?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:21, Reply)

of course not, I didn't say that. I don't think anybody would put sexism and racism on par with each other.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:25, Reply)

Right, now you're definitely trolling.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:27, Reply)

I'm absolutely calling trolling here
Nobody is that fucking retarded.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:29, Reply)

If it is, it's a troll of epic effort.
the ubertroll.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:34, Reply)

He made sexist comments AT WORK twice.
Are you saying that if you were talking to someone at work and twice made obscene and sexist comments about your colleagues, you'd expect to keep your job?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:22, Reply)

Why "of course he is going to be a sexist twat?"
I think this is the point that you really aren't fucking getting. You accept it, therefore you condone it. You condone it, therefore it doesn't change. And it needs to change.

If you really think what him and Keys said is acceptable banter, I'd keep those thoughts strongly to yourself, or else good luck holding down a teaching job anywhere.

Out of interest, do you also thing Ron Atkinson shouldn't have been sacked for calling Desailly "a fucking lazy thick nigger" ? because it's exactly the same argument.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:23, Reply)

and hate leads to the darkside? what? you are making some massive leaps there and we
are both generalising to the point that neither of us are ever going to agree. I don't think Andy Gray should have been fired for sexism. The media frenzy around what, in my opinion, isn't that a big a deal has played a major part in his dismissal. RE big Ron, yes he should have been fired because racism is much worse than sexism.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:28, Reply)

OK, because I still can't quite believe you aren't trolling, I'll rise to it
racism is exactly the same as sexism. It's discrimination on the grounds of a physical characteristic of a human being that is intrinsically and historically linked to oppression of those with that physical characteristic.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:32, Reply)

so every case of alleged racism and sexism is black and white
and the intentions and motivations of the individual accused of saying said 'racist/sexist' comment can be determined from the comment alone?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:34, Reply)

Of course they can!

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:36, Reply)

bollocks

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:41, Reply)

Actually, context is very key, in my opinion, which is something that is debateable and not fact.
And I believe the context of the above video, he was out of order, she clearly wasn't part of the joke in any way, and he was clearly belittling her.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:47, Reply)

OK, I'll accept that some things need to be taken in context.
However, some things ARE clearly self-explanatory, and that's where Grey falls.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:52, Reply)

how do you know? do you know the man personally?
or have you just seen two clips and read a couple of articles?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:56, Reply)

I've seen the incidents as they happened - in context
He's got previous for being a disgusting sexist - context

Do I need to fucking stalk him to prove it? No. You don't look at people like Katie Price and think "Oh, I bet she's shy and retiring at home", do you? No, you judge what you've seen her do in public and what she's previously done in public.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:01, Reply)

It's people
'KNOWING' they are right that cause half the problems in the world anyway. A little discrestion (no idea on spelling) and patience is always better than making a rash decision.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:14, Reply)

I didn't fucking fire him, his bosses did. I'm sure they've met him.

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:22, Reply)

context would demonstrate whether they were joking or serious
neither changes the fact that they should be sacked, because it's a fucking stupid thing to make a joke over.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:55, Reply)

I'm not sure what you think you're saying here
What do the intentions and motivations have to do with anything? racism is racism. Sexism is sexism.

there are two alternatives. It was an ill-judged series of jokes that they must have spent ages planning as a double act to hone so well, in which case they should be sacked for being fucking idiots with no sense.

Or, they really do believe that a female linesman can't do the job properly, in which case they are institutionally sexist and exactly as bad as any racist. And past evidence points strongly to this (see - their commentry on the 1997 or 8 womens FA cup final)

neither scenario is in any way fucking excusable.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:40, Reply)

so when Monty makes racist jokes on here
like the one at the top of the popular page. He is being vitriolic and his comments are verbatim? I think you are trolling now!
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:44, Reply)

What has Monty's poor taste in jokes got to do with it?
Monty isn't a publicly employed figure, he's not made those comments whilst at work and I seriously doubt his behaviour influences the general public
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:49, Reply)

Gray's comment wouldn't have been in the public unless some tech goon
hadn't fucked up. The more you continue this argument the more I'm convinced you're just being beligerent. You know what I mean, I know what you mean, we disagree with each other, what's the big deal? It's not going to effect my evening so why not just leave it now?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:53, Reply)

It was made in the context of his work
it doesn't matter how it was made public, it's relevant.

I'm really not being belligerent, I'm genuinely quite surprised that someone who I previous thought to be quite a reasonable and pleasant chap could be this bigoted. But, absolutely, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Chalk one up to "no matter how much you know, you can always be surprised"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:00, Reply)

Thanks, enjoy your evening.
I'm off to watch the football with my sexist friends.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:04, Reply)

Ok, here we go.....
Well, you know badge, there is a long list of actually funny comedians who use steriotypes to good effect
What about Bernard Manning, gonz?
I think Badge, he only appeals to the thick and the dregs of society, but it's a good point. Personally, I think people taking themselves to seriously can be a bit shit to tell you the truth.
Yeah' Gonz, I know, but what about those who have been instertutionally abused, if someone said "You're a jew so you have a big nose, haha" it would be a bit =/, but if someone said "You're a jew so we're giving the job to someone else", you'd be pissed.
Totally agree, it's the context badger.
Gonz, have you ever felt serious racisim? Do you know what it's like? Imagine if you could get your own back on them.
I have, and most of the time I would like too, but sometimes it's worth picking your battles, badger.
Yes Gonz, and this is one she should pick, it's not in the pub, it's on national TV with entire careers at stake.
Completely agree with you there badge. Just one more thing, has anyone from the weekend told you they like-like me?
Well gonz, I can't awnser that, I wouldn't betray a confidance, but chin up big fella, it's home time.
Ok badge, fair enough, I'll see your reply to this when I get home. L8erz people.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:56, Reply)

I love you, man.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:02, Reply)

I would pay good money to spend a day (well 30 minutes) in your head
you lovely mentallist.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:08, Reply)

I like this.
Anyway, they've said what he did in December. Video is down the thread.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:09, Reply)

This ^
It says more about the person who released the comments to the press than it does about either presenter who thought they were having a private conversation.

Who'd want to work with people who would stab you in the back like that?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:57, Reply)

I thought he didn't, but Keys did?
And it's not a non-story. Have you read the transcript of what they said? Fuck's sake, it's as bad as Ron Atkinsons lovely "nigger" outburst a few years ago. No way should either of them keep their jobs.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:53, Reply)

I hope he fucks off.
The complete fucking bellend.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:49, Reply)

I remember when the first female official was running the line at Ashton Gate.
Somehow, Wendy Toms (for that was her name) managed to dislocate her shoulder during the game.

That'll be supporters of both teams chanting.

'You should have stayed the kitchen, stayed in the kitchen, you should have stayed in the kitchen'.

It's what she would have wanted.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:49, Reply)

hahahaha brilliant.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:51, Reply)

OK I KNOW WHAT HE DID!!!!
He was caught on camera asking a female co-presenter to tuck in his shirt for him.

So, sexual harassment then.

What a fucking horrible little man.

EDIT: Here's the video of the incident in question: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cS8OkAiXCI&feature=player_embedded
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:00, Reply)

What? That counts as harrassment these days?
PC gone mad.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:10, Reply)

I think you can see from her face that she's not impressed by a disgusting old sexist making lewd comments to her.

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:15, Reply)

It looks like she's smiling to me.
She doesn't look disgusted.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:17, Reply)

If he'd been doing it right
you wouldn't have been able to see her face at all.

So yes, I agree that it's ultimately his own look-out. Glad we had the chat.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:20, Reply)

I wonder who decided this was offensive though?
Did the female presenter complain, or was it someone in authority?

I only ask, as depending on the relatonship you have with the female colleague, it might be acceptable banter with them or it might be offensive. Or it might just be someone further up the food chain wanting shot of Gray.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:10, Reply)

They are looking for another excuse after Saturday.
I just wish they had the balls to sack him just for Saturday's comments.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:13, Reply)

Well that's why I said the thing about him suing NOTW

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:13, Reply)

I missed that.
Have you blogged your view on the whole thing?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:14, Reply)

Ha, bloody ha.
Not yet.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:16, Reply)

I was being serious.
It would be easier to read if it was all in one place!
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:18, Reply)

Haha, no
It was too busy with all the Phillips stuff yesterday. Today I am taking a break.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:23, Reply)

Did you manage to get some sleep?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:23, Reply)

Yeah, got to sleep about 4.
Not great, but better than nothing I suppose.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:27, Reply)

He works in 'sport' and is therefore a fucking oik.
He should be executed.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:19, Reply)

I don't agree with much you say
except this. Well, that he is an oik and should be executed.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:25, Reply)

No, I'm pretty sure he works in sport too.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:42, Reply)

Since my last sartorial question was nearly responsible for a diplomatic incident
Where do you stand on wedding attire? Are morning suits classy and special, or ghastly and vulgar?
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:49, Reply)

Ghastly and vulgar.
Horrid things.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:53, Reply)

Last one I went to had top hats
if you can believe it.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:54, Reply)

Ugh.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:15, Reply)

And green waistcoats.

( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:18, Reply)

Oh dear.
Were there little crocks of gold everywhere?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:39, Reply)

I have chosen a 3/4 length jacket and trouser combo with waistcoat for mine
but that is because I just like them.

how do you feel about that?
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:56, Reply)

Like a frock coat?
I like them.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:57, Reply)

sort of, it's called a Prince Edward I believe
basically looks like a suit but with a longer jacket. Not the tails business. Also, I'm the only one wearing one. Everyone else can wear whatever the hell they want.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:59, Reply)

Sounds rather 'Teddy Boy'. Brothel creepers?
I approve.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:01, Reply)

it's more Victorian gent
than teddy boy, but there are comparisons
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:03, Reply)

I like frock coats
I was in The Seagull once, wearing a frock coat. They're rather nice.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:03, Reply)

coat

You tranny cunt.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:05, Reply)

I've been called an American and a tranny in the same thread
and its being called an American that burns most, Monty.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:08, Reply)

You have clearly never had gonorrhea.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:17, Reply)

I refuse to be apologetic for this.

( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:18, Reply)

You haven't lived, son.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:24, Reply)

I'll take all four.
Particularly the punch in the fucking face as I don't think anything else is going to wake me up this afternoon.
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 16:55, Reply)

LOOK! BOOBS!
Oh, no, wait...

LOOK! WILLIES!
(berk, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:07, Reply)

Well that was the most confusing flash I've ever recieved...

(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:12, Reply)

Will thinking positively get me a fella?
It's bloody hard work and I don't want to keep it up if it won't work.
( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:14, Reply)

It will help
in that being of a sunny-ish disposition is attractive, but not in a 'power of the miiind, man' way.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:16, Reply)

Well I'll persevere then.

( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:24, Reply)

Got to be worth a try.
My persistently dour mood has hardly bought the ladies/bumders/guanacos* flocking, so perhaps there's a connection.

*_{Strikethrough as necessary to personalise your own joke about Crow's depraved sexual practices.}
(LongJohnBaldry, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:19, Reply)

I've found being hugely critical of everone and everything on earth
has worked admirably for me throughout my life.

The trick is to not care if you 'get women' or not - and always make sure you are extraordinarily good looking and have a huge cock that you know what to do with.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:22, Reply)

Poor BGB doesn't have a huge cock, though.
At least, I hope not.
( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:24, Reply)

*checks*
It's about average size.
( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:25, Reply)

No use to man or beast, I'm afraid.

( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:27, Reply)

Maybe that's the problem.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:26, Reply)

Is Bobby actually Monkfish?

( Kroney, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:35, Reply)

He's actually Jimmy Somerville.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 17:38, Reply)

I don't know who either of these people are?

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Jan 2011, 18:00, Reply)