but it's pretty much a given
that religion will become the forefront. and then you end up with iran or afghanistan, where women and homosexuals might as well be born dead, for all the rights and respect they get accorded.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:39, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

If I was homosexual or a woman I would wish I'd been born dead
*eats some red meat and swigs whiskey from the bottle*
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:42, Reply)

i can think of quite a few countries where you'd be very happy
bethnal green, for a start.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:44, Reply)

Nope, protests have been relativly secular
Muslim brotherhoods statment yesterday or the day before was very dignified, basically this is a movement of all the Egyptian people not Muslims and the rest of the world has to just accept that.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:48, Reply)

They've been very secular
if what my friend tells me is anything to go by.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:52, Reply)

at this stage maybe
it's what will happen afterwards. out of the inexperienced, internally arguing government, sooner or later someone will come forward and claim that they are the one acting in accordance with what god wants. religion's not even the opium of the masses any more, it's more like the semtex of the masses these days.

also, burning a synagogue? that's pretty anti-semitic, as these things go, makes monty look positively converted!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:53, Reply)

*eats beigel*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:56, Reply)

A few bigots taking advantage of the police being busy
and burning a synagogue isn't necessarily a sign of things to come, it's not exactly Kristallnacht.

Anyway it's still unconfirmed, and actually been denied by a few news sources.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:58, Reply)

it's not that i don't hope you're right
i just think the chances of any of these countries ending up with a democratically elected, fully functioning government that isn't based on religion are slim to anorexic.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:01, Reply)

The best thing I've heard about this whole thing
is a tweet from the Eygiptian square which said, anyone who didn't know about politics before arriving here has been sitting and learning from the others. Just yesterday there were 250,000 people there, who are now motivated relativly informed political activists.
With the internet they can now do more reasearch than was ever possible just 5 years ago.
They'll be alright.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:08, Reply)

but doesn't that worry you even a little bit?
that yesterday they knew nothing, but today they are motivated political activists? a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, as i prove daily. sounds like there's a massive risk of mob mentality.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:10, Reply)

Similar would happen here if the police legged it.
There's always a few meatheads wanting to smash stuff, because people are mongs, and Mong is contagious.
Which is why there should be a violent world regime run by ME.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:13, Reply)

There's nothing like a load of rabid YouTube gibberish
to help educate simple-minded Islamic folks, I reckon.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:13, Reply)

You don't have much faith in people do you.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:14, Reply)

I fucking don't.
My supporting evidence: the entire history of mankind.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:15, Reply)

I've was playing Civilisation 5 last night
I got Ghandi to overrun Bismarks germany with elephant archers.
It was lol
(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:18, Reply)

*shakes head sadly*

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:19, Reply)

nope, if you assume they are going to let you down or do it wrong, you don't get as hurt or disappointed
but less flippantly, i definitely don't have much faith in people in governments, no!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:17, Reply)

Hey -
if he's 'tweeting', the Egyptian can't be that square, eh kids?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:12, Reply)

foursquare eh?
I bet he's mayor of Tahir Square.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:21, Reply)

More's the pity.
Kristalnacht was fucking excellent.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:05, Reply)

that reference was for you by the way.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:11, Reply)

Thank you.
*burns Reichstag*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:11, Reply)

They are lying.
You mark my words - there will be 'aieee' wailing and flag-burning before long.

When the first western journlist gets beheaded you all owe me a tenner. Each.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:55, Reply)

Well yeah, we have no idea which crackpots will end up taking the lead
But of the people themselves, the mood seems to be that they want to have proper democracy and not be led by religious nuts. I can't speak for all of them. Only Omar Sharif, as he's a close personal friend.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 10:56, Reply)

this is absolutely right
but "the people" will go about their lives as best they can and before they know it, they'll have some power-hungry mentalist in charge, blaming allah because secretly he thinks he is entitled to live in a house made of solid gold and just likes killing people who disagree with him. also note it will be a HE.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:00, Reply)

but they're not going about their lives right now are they?
They're kicking off. So if they could just keep their wits about them and maintain the vigilance, maybe, just maybe, they won't end up under another crank, this time a religious maniac of some sort.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:03, Reply)

A lovely idea that will not happen.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:07, Reply)

Ere, I never said I was Doris Stokes.

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:08, Reply)

I was just typing "You know Omar Sharif???"
then I realised what I was saying.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:02, Reply)

I do have very good friend called Sherif who is an Egyptian.
So it was only a small exaggeration. I bet I'd BECOME friends with Omar Sharif if I met him too, so it's not unfeasible.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:06, Reply)

we had a landlord at my old estate agency called omar sharif
i think it might have been a coincidence. i doubt he owns a shitty little one bed in whalley range.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:08, Reply)

He likes to keep his options open.
And it's also somewhere to stay when he's playing bridge at a Manchester tournament.
EDIT: I also once voted for a local council candidate called Mohammed Ali because I figured there's nobody better to vote for that The Greatest.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Wed 2 Feb 2011, 11:09, Reply)