Have you ever wonder if the poor are poor because they are
a: lazy
b: feckless
c: stupid
d:all of the above

So why prop up a failing area of society, it's anti Darwinism
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:23, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

Sorry, by 'poor' I meant
Not leeching off society by being either:

a) born obscenely rich (and having your family avoid tax to make sure you don't lose a single penny),
b) a banker (and avoiding tax WHILST getting taxpayer funded bailouts when you fuck up) or
c) a business magnate (who conveniently actually lives in a post box somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean)
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:27, Reply)

And how precisely
is holding central London to ransom whilst a load of inflammatory tosspots with megaphones chant tedious rhetoric going to make the slightest bit of difference to the taxation and banking situations in this country?

I put it to you that you will achieve nothing whatsoever other than massive wastage of public money - unless you count fucking up struggling retail businesses that are already having a bad time (the FAT CAT BASTARDS) and generally pissing off innocent citizens.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:32, Reply)

Struggling more than the people who are about to be made redundant for no good reason?
Or more than the disabled people who are having their benefits fucked about with and removed for no good reason?

Or the children who will struggle in the future because their education was so fucked up, for no good reason?

Or the people who won't be treated properly because the NHS has been fucked about with so much, for no good reason?
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:37, Reply)

I still don't see how shouting about it and walking through the streets of London
will help? Unless it works as well as the student protests!

Oh, wait.
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:39, Reply)

What will happen
is the banks will say 'hey - we're really sorry! Here's loads of our salaries to spend on flids! Now we've seen people vandalising shops we realise the errors of our ways!'

That's is what will definitely happen.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:44, Reply)

Slippers should be tax-free.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:46, Reply)

The previous government had one policy
Throe money at a problem. When questioned in the commons why the NHS was failing in an area, or scholls were failing children their response was, "Well we've increase investment by £Xbn".

Brilliant, but if those billions made no difference to the lavels of care etc availible then they were wasted. Money is not the answer, efficiecny, quality and itleeligent running of services is the answer, this will never happed whilst budgets continue to rise.

If my boss questioned me on why a project had failed and I said, "yes it failed, but I pumped shit loads of extra money into it" I'd be fired, and rightly so.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:42, Reply)

I'm not saying that was right.
My argument is that shafting the 'little people' while your mates make off with obscene amounts of cash and you lie and tell them that the cuts are necessary is fucking morally abhorrent.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:44, Reply)

Wasting ten years of growth by borrowing huge amounts of money
to pay for jobs that aren't required to employ people who will then vote for you is morally abhorrent.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:47, Reply)

So, in your eyes, all public sector jobs are a waste of money and effectively non-jobs?

(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:51, Reply)

No, not at all
But the Labour governemnt propped up growth with borrowing during a time of global growth when the country should have been saving (Not selling all of our gold at a historically low price).

Save in the good times, so that you are prepared for the bad times. The recession would have happned either way, but we would have been in a better postion to ride it out and less cuts would have been necessary.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:57, Reply)

*Fewer.
I don't disagree with you wholly, especially not about the gold. However, my point was originally that there are alternatives to the wholesale 'slash and burn the public sector then piss on it' approach of this government.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:01, Reply)

Whoever is in government, this will still happen

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:48, Reply)

You're missing out a large area of the population in the middle
I don't consider that i earn a huge amount of money, but when my baby is born in August guess waht the governemnt will give me to help out...that's right absolutely nothing which is all I've ever been eligable for and all I would ever take as I have some pride.

And yet I pay almost £1000 a month in direct income tax and NI, a big chunk of which pays for pikey fucking twats to breed little shits up and down this fetid Isle.

My point is the people you are moaning about are a tiny minority, and your ideals filter down and fuck up the lives of the hard working, high tax paying middle classes, so just leave it out, alwight!
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:35, Reply)

Now, now just because you are affluent, it doesn't mean you have avoided tax and fucked over the little guy
Tgere are people who have gambled and grafted at the right times in their life.

And those people generally help many on their way.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:39, Reply)