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I was being facetious
but anybody that can't cope with a clutch shouldn't be allowed to drive.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:39, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
But, when driving in a city for a long time
it's considerably easier to drive an automatic.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:43, Reply)
I guess my main problem is not the existence of the technology as such
but the reasons behind people employing them. My grandfather had a dodgy knee and needed an auto in order to drive for example. There are people on the road, however, who use an automatic because they simply can't work out how to use a clutch.

I tend to generalise.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:46, Reply)
then i suppose your grandfather shouldn't have been driving

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:49, Reply)
You missed the point.

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:49, Reply)
oh I see your points
your original point was that anybody that can't cope with a clutch shouldn't drive
but now it's that those that don't understand how to work a clutch shouldn't drive
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:51, Reply)
Yeah, I went in head first without really thinking it through.
Which is usually how people do it without airbags.

This is the trouble with making throwaway comments that you then feel you have to defend.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:54, Reply)
fucking futuristic technology
anyway, i see your point about automatic drivers being able to pay less attention to the road
and where as i know how to drive a manual, it makes me nervous and i think i'm safer with an automatic
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:57, Reply)
I use the clutch and the gears to control the car.
I wouldn't like to have that level of control taken away from me and automatics make me nervous, not because they exist, but because there are people on the road who use them because they can't mentally cope with operating a clutch.

I hope that's a little clearer.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:00, Reply)
Actually it's not any clearer, because it's the same shit you've already written, and I think it's stupid.
I think that people that drive clutches are actually more dangerous because they think they're race car drivers and like to show off, a bit like all those 4x4s that wreck in the winter
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:04, Reply)
No I agree,
Your position is much less stupid.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:04, Reply)
i knew you would think its stupid but i dont care
you don't live where I live, its like the fucking fast and the furiious here
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:09, Reply)
I've driven in the States and Canada on holidays and visits here and there.

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:12, Reply)
okay, that has nothing to do with what i said
Its incredibly unlikely that you've driven where I am
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:14, Reply)
Quite possibly, I have no idea where you are.

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:18, Reply)
I find that if you have a cheap automatic
the engine won't drop down gears quickly enough if you suddenly need more power when pulling off up a hill, but expensive automatics are normally okay.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 17:04, Reply)
Incidentally
"Can't cope with" and "don't understand how it works" are two expressions I used to mean the same thing.
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:58, Reply)
I have found that in excess of 70% of all generalisations are bullshit.

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:50, Reply)
This could be vastly improved by everyone being able to select their second choice of generalisation.

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:52, Reply)
yes, and people with disabilities shouldn't be able to reproduce

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:43, Reply)
Glad we're on the same page.
Is it Straw Man Tuesday today?
(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:44, Reply)
+ of mein kampf

(, Tue 3 May 2011, 16:47, Reply)

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