In a perfect world a computer would be a tool
but if you think of cars, 30-40 years ago cars were nothing like as reliable as they are now, and to drive one it really helped if you knew a thing or two about how they worked, if you just drove and drove it and then when it broke you took it to a mechanics, they would probably criticise you too.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:29, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

No, they generally wouldn't
and anyway, your point is only valid in comparison to computers 20 years in the past. Owners don't and can't touch modern cars now, and they mostly work. The same, sadly is not true of modern computers. Unless you buy a mac, and then everyone calls you cunt.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:37, Reply)

The Mac is the Prius of the computing world.

( Kroney, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:39, Reply)

But computers have only been around for a limited time
and as they progress, you need to do less to maintain them.

So my point is entirely valid.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:39, Reply)

bollocks
so far, as they've progressed you've need to do and know more. regression.

Anyway, I didn't say it wasn't at all valid. I said it wasn't entirely valid.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:56, Reply)

That's clearly incorrect
Back in the days of MS-DOS you needed to really know what you were doing to get programs running, let alone networking. Most home networks now can be set up with the bare minimum of technical knowledge, you just plug it in. Installing new hardware is virtually always plug in and reboot, no installing drivers, no reconfiguring your set up or anything.

So I think you should retract that comment.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 12 May 2011, 15:01, Reply)

Also I bet you if 30 years ago I took my car in and said a light came on
and it was because I needed to put oil in it, they would laugh behind my back and call me a twunt.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:42, Reply)

They'd do that today.
I got a smirk from a tyre man because I asked him to change a wheel for me not so long ago.

Until he realised how stuck the locking nut was. He needed a five foot extender bar to get the necessary leverage on it. I had tried and failed. Lack of tools is not the same as being an idiot.
( Kroney, Thu 12 May 2011, 14:48, Reply)